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Old 12-23-2005, 04:56 AM
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Default Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

-ev? +ev?
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

I would say yes in 6 max because of the huge implied odds. I don't know about full ring.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

i would say it depends on the table.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

I limp these UTG at 6max if the table is relatively passive preflop - lots of multiway limped pots, a decent amount of the stupid preflop minraise, etc. These tables will let you see a flop cheaply and pay you off royally enough of the time to make it well worth it. Can't say I do this at higher limit tables, aggressive tables, tight tables, or full tables.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

I openraise with lots of hands UTG, 54s for example.
Why should I make this relatively small exception to the rule?
I am able to outplay most of my opponents postflop anyways.
Usually people fold to a c-bet.
And when I hit my hand is well disguised.

Edit: I play low limits, mind. 6-max.
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

I play full ring at Full tilt, and i limp 22-JJ UTG

The reason i think it is +EV to limp the 22-55 UTG, is....If it is limped round, you obviously have value to hit your set. If some1 standard raises to $4, you call and hit your set...the players at this level will pay you off with their entire stack with TPTK or an overpair, so i still think you have set value
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

I play full ring 25 to 200NL and I limp 22-TT utg. The site I play most of my games at the tables are very passive and 90% of the players will only minraise or raise 4xbb max regardless of number of limpers so I always get odds to draw to a set.
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

6max 25NL mainly for me.. i'll limp 22-88 UTG usually. depends on the table and how i've been playing
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:12 AM
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Hell yea I limp em. Theres always several people at the tables I frequent that live by the slogan "Top pair = Not going ANYWHERE".
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Do we limp low PP (22-55) UTG?

But can anyone explain why they wont OPENRAISE in 6-max with 22-55?
With small pairs we are looking for a set,
and 222 is almost always equal to 777.
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