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#22
08-08-2005, 02:54 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
No specific reads as to what his small re-raise means, and I push QQ+ and AKs. I call with JJ and AKo. I think QQ may be a call, but I don't think you can get away from it on a flop with all undercards, so I push it with the pot this big.
As to your above posts on calling with any pair to spike a set -- I kind of agree I think, and I might widen my call range up a bit with medium pairs. 
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#23
08-08-2005, 03:08 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
Wow. Would you guys limp a pair hoping to spike a set with 75/150 blinds and a T700 stack? I wouldn't do it if I had position and 3 limpers before me. But here there's one guy all-in and another one showing pretty big strength. And I don't think medium pairs have more value than deuces here.
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#25
08-08-2005, 03:31 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
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OK lets just get to the point. What do you do with the following hands: JJ, QQ, KK, AK [/ QUOTE ] call, push, push, call... w/out a read.
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#26
08-08-2005, 03:35 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
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Thats not the same thing and you know it. [/ QUOTE ] Well, how is it so different, except that here I think you have even less "set value" because you're OOP and there are less opponents catching something worse? I really don't think you can even dream of playing a hand just hoping to spike a set here. You're probably trying to say that you'll sometimes win the pot otherwise, but with the range I'm putting the villain on (and which you have not disagreed openly with, or have you?) that's just not happening. I'm not trying to be some kind of a smartass here or anything. I'm tired, I suck at poker and I respect your posts here a lot. I'm just not getting this. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#27
08-08-2005, 03:42 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
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[ QUOTE ] Thats not the same thing and you know it. [/ QUOTE ] Well, how is it so different, except that here I think you have even less "set value" because you're OOP and there are less opponents catching something worse? I really don't think you can even dream of playing a hand just hoping to spike a set here. You're probably trying to say that you'll sometimes win the pot otherwise, but with the range I'm putting the villain on (and which you have not disagreed openly with, or have you?) that's just not happening. I'm not trying to be some kind of a smartass here or anything. I'm tired, I suck at poker and I respect your posts here a lot. I'm just not getting this. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Well to begin with you pretty much know what you opponent has and you are gonna get payed off most of the time. Plus you are closing the action which is always a plus. I think its pretty close and I may very well be wrong, but this is the type of spot I'm ready to gamble a bit on in order to get a big stack. I also think the allin player helps us with a hand like TT-JJ (which are pretty much the extent of pairs I would be raising UTG anyway) since if the reraiser is getting frisky with AK or something he might just decide to check it down post flop or he might check down with KK if an A comes giving you a couple more cards to beat him.
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#28
08-08-2005, 03:57 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
Okay, thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand your point better now, but I still disagree with you. I don't know if this can be settled for good without simulations or something, but my gut still says so strongly to fold TT here that I don't intend to change my opinion easily.
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#30
08-08-2005, 04:46 AM
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Re: Reraised ... what to do, what to do.
With AK, QQ or JJ I call and proceed with caution. Luckily the shorty is all in, so you can give the big meanie credit for most bets post flop.
AA I reraise to the smallest amount that isn't transparent, whatever that is. Maybe all-in. KK I think I do the same, and I'm ready to go broke with it.
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