bah!

silkyslim · #1 10-07-2005, 06:47 PM

God damn pot odds, can anyone efold the turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO 3-bets, SB calls, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (24 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, CO calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (18 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises, SB calls, Hero ??

alul · #2 10-07-2005, 07:00 PM

Hero folds of course. You don't have enough odds to try and spike a J. Also if somebody has QJ you will be drawing dead.

silkyslim · #3 10-07-2005, 07:06 PM

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Hero folds of course. You don't have enough odds to try and spike a J. Also if somebody has QJ you will be drawing dead.

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wait, why don't i have odds to spike a J????? plz count them.

Harv72b · #4 10-07-2005, 07:07 PM

You're drawing dead to QQ, TT, QT, QJ, and 22. You're probably drawing to about 3.5 outs against whatever else the field might have (you couldn't be happy to see the J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] show up here). Those two combined should make this an easy enough fold, getting "just" 11.5:1 immediate odds with the possibility of a 3-bet & cap behind you.

alul · #5 10-07-2005, 07:18 PM

Right now you do, but if if UTG1 3-bets, CO just calls and SB calls you will have 31/3 which is not enough already. If CO caps, it's even worse. Also considering you maybe drawing dead, I think this is a fold.

silkyslim · #6 10-07-2005, 07:19 PM

I was singing, "you're gonna river me , you [censored] [censored]" the whole time i was betting. i cant believe he did................

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Villian showed A7o

Oh and i definately fold the turn in my OP

silkyslim · #7 10-07-2005, 07:19 PM

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Right now you do, but if if UTG1 3-bets, CO just calls and SB calls you will have 31/3 which is not enough already. If CO caps, it's even worse. Also considering you maybe drawing dead, I think this is a fold.

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there you go, i agree, thanks for elaborating.

Nick C · #8 10-07-2005, 07:20 PM

I think you can discount your outs enough to fold. CO's waking up on the turn is a little bit scary (a slowplayed TT is a possibility), and in any event your overcards probably aren't worth much at this point (AQ is also possible for CO, and UTG+1 is at least trying to represent a queen).

Plus, as Harv points out, the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] may not help you even if your other gutshot outs are clean (perhaps it's the spades that prompted SB to cold-call on the turn).

alul · #9 10-07-2005, 07:28 PM

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I was singing, "you're gonna river me , you [censored] [censored]" the whole time i was betting. i cant believe he did................

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Villian showed A7o

Oh and i definately fold the turn in my OP

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This is a nice suckout. I just love it. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]