A passive set Party 1/2 6-max deepish

Ghazban · #1 12-05-2005, 07:58 PM

Villain has been somewhat aggressive postflop when he's been the preflop raiser (which has been extremely rare, he's about 45/4 after 80 hands). He hasn't shown down anything that made me wonder WTF he was doing postflop but he hasn't gotten to showdown much, either.

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MP ($19.10)
CO ($345.20)
Button ($424.55)
Hero ($334.40)
BB ($41.20)
UTG ($195)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, CO raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $7, 1 fold, UTG calls $6.

Flop: ($26) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $18, UTG folds, CO raises to $50, Hero calls $32.

I led out here to try and trap some money from UTG if he has anything and to build the pot. If I check/call, I might get some money from UTG but can't build the pot fast enough to get all-in by the river. If I check/raise, I'm almost guaranteed to lose UTG. I did the long gee-I-think-AT-might-be-good-but-I-don't-know pause before calling.

Turn: ($126) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $95, Hero calls $95.

Again, I do the tough-decision pause before calling.

River: ($316) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
I check, he pushes, I call (quickly this time [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

Comments on all streets appreciated; please give villain a range of hands, too.

Sephus · #2 12-05-2005, 08:01 PM

i do the exact same, including the timing.

tdomeski · #3 12-05-2005, 08:04 PM

cool.

AllIn3High · #4 12-05-2005, 08:04 PM

I would have pushed the river myself, he's not folding anyway but he might check aces or kings behind.

TheWorstPlayer · #5 12-05-2005, 08:09 PM

You should push the river. If he really has an overpair (which he will often) you lose too much value by checking. With his numbers, it seems more likely that he has an overpair than that he will make some wild bluff on the river.

Sephus · #6 12-05-2005, 08:11 PM

seems to me that villain will almost always bet his overpair for value on the river given the way hero has played and the stack sizes.

TheWorstPlayer · #7 12-05-2005, 08:12 PM

He still has 200 left. Plenty of room to make checking behind look attractive.

PokerFink · #8 12-05-2005, 08:14 PM

Consider me on the push river bandwagon.

Ghazban · #9 12-05-2005, 08:15 PM

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I would have pushed the river myself, he's not folding anyway but he might check aces or kings behind.

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Isn't a push totally inconsistent with what I'm representing (i.e. a weak made hand)? Check/call on the flop and turn followed by a river push is a huge sign of strength, no? Granted, he may or may not recognize this...

Sephus · #10 12-05-2005, 08:19 PM

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He still has 200 left. Plenty of room to make checking behind look attractive.

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actually 182.4 [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

i will say that i would probably have an easier time arguing that pushing the river is "much" better than checking than arguing the same for checking v. pushing, but i feel like checking is a little better, if that makes any sense.