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Old 12-28-2005, 04:24 AM
brimstone1 brimstone1 is offline
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Default HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

PokerStars Game #3457647807: Tournament #17153550, Hold'em Pot Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2005/12/28 - 02:53:35 (ET)
Table '17153550 1' One on One Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: crookedspade (1690 in chips)
Seat 2: Digable (1310 in chips)
crookedspade: posts small blind 10
Digable: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to crookedspade [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
crookedspade said, "I wouldn't do that if the pot were smaller"
crookedspade said, "erm, I meant bigger"
crookedspade: calls 10
Digable: checks
*** FLOP *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Digable: bets 30
crookedspade: calls 30
*** TURN *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Digable: bets 80
crookedspade: calls 80
*** RIVER *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Digable: bets 260
crookedspade: calls 260
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Digable: shows [Jd Tc] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
crookedspade: shows [Qd As] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
Digable collected 780 from pot
crookedspade said, "grr"
Digable said, "ok"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 780 | Rake 0
Board [2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Seat 1: crookedspade (button) (small blind) showed [Qd As] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 2: Digable (big blind) showed [Jd Tc] and won (780) with a straight, Eight to Queen

He was re-raising quite often PF, hence the AQ limp.

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Old 12-28-2005, 04:27 AM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

Well you'd certainly call a reraise pf, wouldn't you? You could even pop him back if he reraises.

I definitely pop him on the turn. Since you didn't, the river call is auto imo.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

I agree with my crip brother up there.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

I don't think brimstone's decisions on the turn or river are remotely interesting. I got him to post this hand because it illustrates a situation where there are cards that may come on the turn which can allow one to continue bluffing, but with considerably more force.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:41 AM
brimstone1 brimstone1 is offline
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

Oh yeah, I'm just waiting for him to raise it PF here so I can go ahead and re-raise.

The flop call is automatic, and the rest just unfoiled. I didn't even consider the 8 as a dangerous card, so I insta-called his river bet here.
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Old 12-28-2005, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

I won't reveal my top-secret "how to pwn unarmed HU" strategy, but I'd play the turn and river the same way. The other 2 streets are a different story.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

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The flop call is automatic

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Is it? I'm reraising this flop at least some of the time.

The Shadow
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:40 AM
brimstone1 brimstone1 is offline
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

He's going to call the flop raise, and check to us on the turn, I think it lowers the value of our hand here.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

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The flop call is automatic

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Is it? I'm reraising this flop at least some of the time.

The Shadow

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Actually, you'd just be raising, as I would.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: HU with Unarmed, a hand to discuss

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He's going to call the flop raise, and check to us on the turn, I think it lowers the value of our hand here.

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Why exactly would he be calling a flop raise with just two overs, unless you made a donk minraise.

Most any decent raise takes this down on flop or turn, period
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