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Old 12-16-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

VillianA is probably a 2p2er and is fairly conservative early. I have played with VillianA a lot.

Villian B is not well known. Is probably not a 2p2er. Lost 1/2 his stack in a way that wasn't horribly donkish, but not well played.

NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: VillianA ( $985 )
Seat 2: VillianB ( $550 )
Seat 3: ( $985 )
Seat 4: ( $1000 )
Seat 5: ( $2010 )
Seat 6: ( $1510 )
Seat 7: ( $1000 )
Seat 8: ( $990 )
Seat 10: HERO ( $970 )
Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jc Js ]
folds.
LIMPY calls [15].
folds.
Okayp1ayer folds.
HERO raises [50]
VillianA calls [50].
VillianB is all-In [550]
folds.
folds.
LIMPY folds.
HERO calls [500].
VillianA is all-In [935]
HERO is all-In [420]
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

it looks like you should have raised to isolate?
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:50 PM
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I don't like this at all. In general I don't like calling pushes, but this early, I especially don't like it.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:52 PM
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it looks like you should have raised to isolate?

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I can't see it making a difference - if Villain A is calling 500, he's calling a push.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Micro, micro, micro. Are you getting too involved with JJ again?? I could understand in the game we played together as it was HU against a donk - but here? No, I'd just let it go after the push from the idiot. I know there's a big chance you're ahead of his range but you've only put 50 in to this pot. Just let it go!
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Ok, let's see if I can turn the tide.

I can virtually guarantee VillianA reraises with QQ+, so I'm not worried about him. If he does have AK, I might be better off isolating, but not too big a deal. He folds a worse ace for sure. I have all his other possible hands dominated. (except JJ)

VillianB is at least not very good, is likely on tilt, and I'm not playing for my whole stack. At the very worst, I'm about 54% favorite over his range, perhaps as much as 60%.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

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I know there's a big chance you're ahead of his range

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Good reason to call.

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but you've only put 50 in to this pot.

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Bad reason to fold.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Well no, I wouldn't fold if it was HU with the donk! But the fact that the 2p2er has called his raise makes me intently worried. If 2p2er had limped, you raised, and donk had pushed - my chips go in with the quickness. But that didn't happen here. C'mon you know I am not saying you should fold just because you've only put 50 chips into the pot. Hell I called a push at level 1 with AK to a particularly donky donk yesterday, in fact I re-pushed all in, he had KTs and MHWG.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

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I can virtually guarantee VillianA reraises with QQ+,

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do you know villainA, or is just what you're guessing from the read?

i would not fold to the push. i think it doesn't make too much difference whether you call or push to his push. i'd push because i'm mentally lazy and don't want to deal with an Axx flop.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

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Micro, micro, micro. Are you getting too involved with JJ again?? I could understand in the game we played together as it was HU against a donk - but here? No, I'd just let it go after the push from the idiot. I know there's a big chance you're ahead of his range but you've only put 50 in to this pot. Just let it go!

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What if he also knew about the donk's suckiness, and the likelihood of him pushing all in, and therefore sandwiching you? Is this not possible? It might be something I would do for instance, especially as a re-raise would likely make the donk fold, and you fold as well.
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