Crazy Angle Shooter and Floor Ruling

[surfinillini]

Playing at the Hustler casino yesterday, 2/5NL game...I'm in seat 5, seat 4 is the quintisential angle shooter, young kid, has about 200 in yellow ($5) and 1 blue 1K chip. I mean this guy would do everything, he would look at this cards really quickly, then say he's raising blind, someone would call him down and he shows AA. He would flop a set, someone would move all in, he would pretend he was going to muck his cards so player in between would call, then he'd go over the top of them.

Then this hand came up...he makes it $40 to go preflop, seat 6 gets some raising chips, angle shooter says "Why don't you just put it all in", guy says ok, pushes all his $50 stacks in, about $400 total, angle boy says, ok lets go, he pushes his yellows in only (approx $350) but puts his 1K chip in his pocket.

Dealer runs the board, AQ loses to seat 6's AA.

Then he refuses to pay seat 6 the additional $50 he has, he said that he never called "all-in" and that his yellows were only in play.

A big brewhaha forms and luckily we get the stupidest floorperson who cannot make a decision. He argues with the kid for a good 20 minutes before I chime in and say I want to play. The kid refuses to break his 1K chip and they tell him he can't get back into this game but they don't kick him out.

So...they shouuld've kicked this douchebag out right? At least for the rest of the day...

[tubalkain]

That calls for the banhammer, actually.

[stinkypete]

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He would flop a set, someone would move all in, he would pretend he was going to muck his cards so player in between would call, then he'd go over the top of them.

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nothing wrong with that.

I agree, all sorts of weenies do this. Usually if they are a young kid and obviously not your usual casino fish, it's nice because you know they have a big hand.

It's a form of overacting. And usually they are not even that good at it (especially if it's so noticable that it looks like they want to muck, it's smarter to at least try to be more subtle about it so you might think that you picked up something that they are unaware of)

[surfinillini]

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He would flop a set, someone would move all in, he would pretend he was going to muck his cards so player in between would call, then he'd go over the top of them.

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nothing wrong with that.

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there's nothing wrong with it but when it's so trasparent it's an obvious tell to a semi decent player.

[jba]

are you kidding me? i'm beating that $50 out of him, wtf they didn't kick him out so he kept playing something else?

what a TOOL

[surfinillini]

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are you kidding me? i'm beating that $50 out of him, wtf they didn't kick him out so he kept playing something else?

what a TOOL

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we wouldn't let him back in our game and seat 6 took his cigarettes [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

either way, I caught him playing 6/12 or something as I left later in the day.

[goofball]

As a floor person I would tell him he has two options.

1) Pay the man his money.
2) Never come back to the casino ever.

[bigfishead]

Unless the dealer had just sat down within the last 3-4 hands. Thata where the blame goes partially too. During the first few hands it's natural a dealer will not see who's got what in odd or large chips. But after a few hands then the dealer should notice and stop the action till that chip gets in the pot. Except however when that chip has been hidden behind the stacks and they just had no chance to see it. HOWEVER, on the push, the previous dealer should also let the incoming dealer know "seat 4 has 1k chip".

As for the floor....he's weak...kick him in the nuts.

[eviljeff]

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As a floor person I would tell him he has two options.

1) Pay the man his money.
2) Never come back to the casino ever.

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looks good until he cleverly retorts "I choose both options, sir"