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Old 12-06-2005, 08:18 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

I was actually the Button in this hand. It's certainly not a bad beat post as the BB called with what I consider an atrocious hand, and I beat them both. (The SB's call was pretty much as bad, but that's for another discussion). I'm just wondering what us here would need to call in the BB in this situation? Considering a fold sees us either HU with 2.7k or ITM with a micro stack, I think something like QQ+ for me, maybe even KK+?

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 8 - 3 players (Converter: PGC)


Chip Counts:Button: 3330 Chips
SB: 3605 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 3065 Chips</font>

Hero is BB with two cards.
Blinds are 200/400

PreFlop
Button is All-In
SB is All-In
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

And if reads are important.. Button (me) is playing pretty typical, aggressive poker at this point, but not so much that his push here would be 'any two', think more like top 25-30%. The SB is absolutely awful, so his call can mean anything here, but let's be generous and say it 'should' be top 15-20%.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:23 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

do an ICM
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

Ha ha ha - yeah, I can do an ICM, but for SNGPT junkies, they're out of luck here, so I thought I'd ask what people would do in a game situation, as these don't exactly come up often?
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

w/o thinking about it too much, I imagine if it were game time I would be hard pressed to fold QQ...but I think it might be correct to. I am not folding KK here.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

Yeah, that is what I would have said too. JJ is almost certainly instamuck and there's no way AK can have the needed equity. QQ is the tricky one. KK is an easy call I think.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

I'd agree with you, QQ, maybe KK+. I think it might be a tiny bit too painful to fold QQ ITM but JJ would be in the muck in a flash.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:35 PM
Bill Poker Bill Poker is offline
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

does it make any difference if Hero has most chips, e.g., SB=3065, Hero=3600)?

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Yeah, that is what I would have said too. JJ is almost certainly instamuck and there's no way AK can have the needed equity. QQ is the tricky one. KK is an easy call I think.

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Old 12-06-2005, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

Considering the BB has the least amount of chips and the chips stacks are fairly equal, the BB would need to win the 3 way pot to win otherwise he's going out in 3rd. If he folds he instantly moves up to 2nd with a chance to come back and win. So he would need a KK+ i would think. I didn't realize the 109's were this bad. I think I'll be moving up sooner than I thought...
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: (LC) $109 ITM - what would you need to call here?

I as the Button, by the way, had QTo. It was ahead of SB's hand and a flip against the BB's. That's how bad they both were here [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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