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Old 11-11-2005, 01:32 PM
KingDan KingDan is offline
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Default Whats your standard line against check/minraiser?

My examples uses 2/4 NL.
You raise 12 preflop only unknown bb calls. If it matters, say it were from button.

Say flop comes 359

You bet 2/3 pot and he checkminraises you.
What is your line with A5? A9? 88? TT?

How does it change if he bought short (ie 150)
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Whats your standard line against check/minraiser?

Fold.

*edit* Maybe if you had A9, and he was quite short, a push would be correct.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Whats your standard line against check/minraiser?

Does folding these hands mean villains will just miniraise all your CBs?

I am always lost when someone miniraises my flop bet. I would be very interested to get some more opinions on this.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:36 PM
afreeman afreeman is offline
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Default Re: Whats your standard line against check/minraiser?

Generally call.

With the A9 and A5, you're getting 4:1 on 2 cards, which means that you need 4-5 outs to continue. You have 5 outs if your two-pair outs and set outs are good.

With TT, I probably bet more on the flop and call a minraise. TT is enough of an overpair that you're probably ahead most of the time here. Fire again on a blank turn.

With a weak pair or underpair, I check/fold it on the flop unless I hit the set. (Disclaimer: I'm mostly a FR player; in 6-max, this may play like the tens).

I do think these are all fairly marginal plays, but: (1) you have position, and (2) you don't want to be frequently folding to a minraised C-bet or you'll soon start to see even the most timid fish playing back at you.

Edit: your example for the flop should read: "he checks, you bet, then he minraises". As phrased, the positions are confusing.
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:04 PM
PokerFink PokerFink is offline
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Default Re: Whats your standard line against check/minraiser?

With tpgk or better I usually put a shortstack all-in. I see people call with all kinds of garbage that should fold to a 3-bet.

Deeper I will call with tpgk or overpair and take a turn.
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