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Old 11-06-2005, 11:22 PM
Borodog Borodog is offline
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I thought I read somewhere that on average, people are taller now than they were even just a few hundred years ago. If true, wouldn't this be some sort of evolutionary process?

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This is a nutritional effect.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Has evolution stopped?

Ed Miller has proved that human evolution is still ongoing. He recently evolved from a bachelor into a married man.
Q.E.D.
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Old 11-07-2005, 05:02 AM
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I would tend to agree with this when it comes to human life.
Also, It seems like we will either use genetic engineering to progress in the future. Or simply build thinking machines smarter than ourselves, much more rapidly than we could naturally evolve. So design has likely taken over from natural evolution as far as evolutionary progress goes.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:27 PM
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Does anyone else find it annoying, yet still slightly humorous, that the [censored] filters are filtering out our genus, H o m o?

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I found that annoying as well.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Has evolution stopped?

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I thought I read somewhere that on average, people are taller now than they were even just a few hundred years ago. If true, wouldn't this be some sort of evolutionary process?

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This is a nutritional effect.

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Many believe that it's partially a nutritional effect and partly selection.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:33 PM
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Evolution as is commonly known has ended. People these days don't die because they are slow or weak or stupid.

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"Survival of the fittest" is only one simplified part of evolution.

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and just because people are slow, weak and stupid does not mean they are not evolutionary fit. Couple of the posters here seem to think the fast, strong and intelligent are un-fit.

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This is a great point. Some of the adaptations that make the cow so successful is that it's slow, dumb, and tastes good. Not that that's really natural selection but it's the same principle.

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why isn't this natural selection at work?

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Because anytime humans are involved people will say it's artificial selection.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Has evolution stopped?

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Evolution as is commonly known has ended. People these days don't die because they are slow or weak or stupid.

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"Survival of the fittest" is only one simplified part of evolution.

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and just because people are slow, weak and stupid does not mean they are not evolutionary fit. Couple of the posters here seem to think the fast, strong and intelligent are un-fit.

chez

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This is a great point. Some of the adaptations that make the cow so successful is that it's slow, dumb, and tastes good. Not that that's really natural selection but it's the same principle.

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why isn't this natural selection at work?

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Because anytime humans are involved people will say it's artificial selection.

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...as if humans were somehow outside of nature
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:47 PM
Rduke55 Rduke55 is offline
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Default Re: Has evolution stopped?

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Evolution as is commonly known has ended. People these days don't die because they are slow or weak or stupid.

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"Survival of the fittest" is only one simplified part of evolution.

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and just because people are slow, weak and stupid does not mean they are not evolutionary fit. Couple of the posters here seem to think the fast, strong and intelligent are un-fit.

chez

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This is a great point. Some of the adaptations that make the cow so successful is that it's slow, dumb, and tastes good. Not that that's really natural selection but it's the same principle.

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why isn't this natural selection at work?

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Because anytime humans are involved people will say it's artificial selection.

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...as if humans were somehow outside of nature

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Yeah, this bothers me too, and I work on evolution. Basically they call the ant-aphid agriculture natural but the human-cow one is artificial.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:29 PM
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...as if humans were somehow outside of nature

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Good point. If there's anything we've learned from quantum mechanics it's that we can't separate ourselves from nature.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:45 PM
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GTFO N00B!
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