QQ Super Tuesday level 1 lots of freakin action in front

[woodguy]

Hello All,

Super Tuesday level 1. BB=15.

I'm in the BB with QQ.

5 limpers to the button who raises to 100.

I decide that his raise is enough to scare the limpers and I may be able to stack him if I flop well, so I take that chance here. (feel free to flame). He also doesn't need a great hand to make this raise on the button.

You can make a very good case for an isolation raise here, but I don't want to put 25% of stack in OOP and have a crummy flop with the lead. You can call this weak, but I like my call here, but you can beat it up if you want.

UTG limper pushes for ~1000 total.

Folded to Button who pushes ~1200

I have ~1100 in front of me.

My action?

No reads, its early and I have no notes.

Regards,
Woodguy

[arcticfox]

Fold. Both UTG and button are playing this like they have kings or aces. Your best case is that UTG was stealing with a lower PP and button is overplaying AK but with no reads I think you have to let this go.

[Roman]

I lay and dont think about it twice, im not praying for 2 AKs or AK and JJ here.

[woodguy]

BUMP...GETTING LOST DOWN THERE....

[Roman]

you think this needs more discussion? I think its a pretty clear fold.

[woodguy]

Well if we put the button on AA-TT, AK,AQ and we put UTG on AA-66 we have 38% equity in the pot.

This early in the tourney I think this is enough to call, especially given I would be talbe chip leader early.

I didn't think this was a clear fold at all.

Regards,
Woodguy

[betgo]

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Well if we put the button on AA-TT, AK,AQ and we put UTG on AA-66 we have 38% equity in the pot.

This early in the tourney I think this is enough to call, especially given I would be talbe chip leader early.

I didn't think this was a clear fold at all.

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In a $150 tournament, you have to give atleast one of them credit for an allin hand. UTG was representing aces, but that didn't scare button. They could have hands in the range you maentioned, but I don't agree with the weighting. The high end is more likely.

What were the results?

[MLG]

I call. There are lots of wackos early on in these things.

[woodguy]

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I call. There are lots of wackos early on in these things.

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That was what probably tipped the scales for me.

After all the action behind me I cursed myself for not raising, as I would comfortably fold to a third raise from a PF limper.

From doing all the hand exercises we see here everyday and palying around with pokerstove, I *knew* I was about even money equity wise in the pot, maybe a smidge better, and there was dead $$ in the pot, so I felt I had an edge.

I also love having a big stack early.

I've also seen ludicrously stupid limp re-raises early in Supers so that helped.

I called and got lucky.

UTG had JJ
Button had AKs

No one improved.

My folding equity in the subsequent hands up until the table broke was nice too, chipped up to 5900 without a showdown over the next 3 levels.

Regards,
Woodguy

Sounds like UTG limper has a big hand, although it depends on the type of player you put him on. If he's solid, then he most likely has kings or aces. Beware the UTG limper.
Button prolly has a strong ace. FOLD!