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Old 07-07-2005, 02:53 PM
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Yeah, I don't see what kind of reliable information we'll gain by betting. "Hmmmm. 3 of them called. That means they don't have a 9, or they do have a 9 and are slowplaying."

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don't you face the same decision on the turn when someone bets? say a Q falls and it is bet and raised before it gets to you, now what?

i think you'll face the same decision whether you are check/raised here, check through and bet into on the turn, or check/everyone calls/turn is checked to you.

i wonder if there is a firm answer to this flop or if it just a matter of preference.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:54 PM
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You know, we have tons of people in and a chance to see the turn for free. We can't fold out everyone AND they all have odds that would make a call correct.

I'm going to check, closing the action.

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this is the only correct answer - anything else is wrong
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:54 PM
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Dude, the possibility of a check-raise is a reason not to bet. We have A-high and no backdoor draws. Paying 2 small bets to pay the turn is bad.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:56 PM
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there are too many people in the pot to make betting an effective play here. check and hope to hit your ace or queen for free, then play from there.

i'm not really sure how to use pokerstove yet, but according to it, your equity against 5 random hands is only about 14% while the random hands hover around 17-18, if that's worth anything.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:57 PM
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i think this is really poor with 4/5 others on the flop when you don't have the best hand 9.5/10 times

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Why would you play so passively when the pot is huge? What if you have the best hand? A check lets all the other donkeys see a free card with their crap hands.

I bet here because I want to get about two folds and increase my chances of winning this huge pot. Nobody has shown any aggression up to this point and we have a decent shot of having the best hand. I think you can afford to waste bets going after a huge pot like this.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:57 PM
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If we had a backdoor flush here, I would bet. As it is, we have nothing and are behind all pocket pairs.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:57 PM
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this is the only correct answer - anything else is wrong

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i hate this answer and i think it is totally wrong.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:00 PM
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this is the only correct answer - anything else is wrong

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This is a pretty narrowminded way of looking at things. Just because everyone has odds to see the turn doesn't mean they know they have odds (or that they even know how to count odds). If they think they may be drawing close to dead (putting us on an overpair or a 9) or have a hand like J2s in the BB I guarantee they will fold to a flop bet. Thinning the field at all would make this a very good bet and a check/raise would not be terrible as it would have an even better chance of thinning the field.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:01 PM
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:02 PM
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this is the only correct answer - anything else is wrong

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i hate this answer and i think it is totally wrong.

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haha ok it was a little harsh

but you gain absolutely nothing by betting here - everyone will call and you'll be putting in money at an equity disadvantage (your hand isn't best with this many players)

you get to see a free turn card if you don't bet

free turn card on this board >>>>>>>>>>> betting with nothing into a bunch of people

i really don't think this is close, but if someone has a reason why it is close say it and i'll listen

nothing that's been said yet makes betting desireable at all
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