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Old 09-07-2005, 02:37 AM
Cyrus Cyrus is offline
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Default Oil, again

Some statistics your way :

Crude oil reserves, at the end of last year, stood at the equivalent of approximately 40 more years of production, if production remains at 2004 levels. You get that figure by dividing the total known 2004 reserves of crude oil by the 2004 production - which is 1,200 billion of barrels divided by 80.2 million barrels.

This reserves-to-production ratio (40 more years) actually fell in 2004 (it was 43 years in 2003) despite the fact that reserves continued to increase last year and are now some 17% above the 1994 levels. But production is now 20% higher.

Oil production increased by more than 3 million barrels daily in 2004, the largest increase since the mid-1970s. OPEC accounted for 2 /3rds of that increase.

Oil refinery capacity worldwide, despite the many closures and mothballing of the last decade (due to low or non-existent refinery margins), actually increased to 84.5 million barrels daily, up some 1% from the previous year. It was 75 million barrels daily in 1994. So capacity is up.

So is utilization of refinery capacity. Oil refineries operated, on average, worldwide, at 87& of their capacity, which is the highest level for at least the last 25 years. When you think of the unavoidable losses in utilization due to maintenance, accidents, etc, the figure represents something close to “full” utilization.

Oil consumption rose worldwide – you could say dramatically, although we will soon see higher increases than last year’s. In 2004, oil consumption was 80.7 million barrels daily. That includes all oil products consumed, both inland and internationally, ie bunkering and aviation, and also refinery losses (also crude oil used directly as fuel). The rate of worldwide growth in consumption was 3.4% which is the strongest seen since 1978. It was above the 10-year average in every region of the world. The Asia-Pacific region accounted for 50% of the growth on oil consumption the last ten years.

Detail : The products with the highest growing consumption (demand) were the so-called “middle distillates” which are mainly Gasoil. They accounted for half thr world growth in consumption, which China the main “culprit”, due to its phenomenally rising transport and power generation needs. Chinese mostly burn diesels.

The United States continues to be a voracious consumer of petroleum. The US produces some 7.2 million barrels daily and imports another 13 million barrels more, which brings its consumption level at a little more than 20 million barrels daily, easily the highest for a single country and more than the whole of Europe or the whole of Asia-Pacific (incl. Japan, China, etc).

So why are they not building more refineries ? Or getting refineries out of the mothballs ? Because either building a new refinery or re-starting an old one is a very costly affair. It does not make sense when you combine the above data of phenomenal demand with the current refinery gross profit margins, which (at between 4 and 6 dollars per barrel processed) are at the highest levels the refiners have seen for more than 15 years (if you exclude a 2000 spike in US refineries’ margin).

There are two answers and these you will not find in most analyses. One is “bad”, and the other is “good”. The “bad” explanation for not seeing a rush of new refineries getting constructed is that, well, the oil companies are all in cahoots! They want prices and margins to remain so high, since they can already meet worldwide demand, in order to continue to make out like bandits.

That’s the conspiracy theory. It is weak on many levels, one of which is that not even countries (as opposed to oil companies) are going for new refineries, not in any significant manner. Except for the “natural” development whereby Saudi Aramco opened up a refinery in China some years ago, there are not many new refineries around.

The “good” answer is the one you will more likely hear in the corridors – but you gotta take the elevator to at least the seventh floor : Oil companies do not expect the current high levels of prices and margins to last more than one or two years down the road. The reasoning behind that doubt is that demand is already been met, that prices are high also for “artificial” causes (Iraq, etc), that there is a big amount of speculation in the commodities markets, etc. Therefore, it does not make financial sense to build or re-open a refinery when the refinery margins, along with oil prices, are gonna revert to their “historical levels” – whatever these are.

That’s it.

...Now burn, baby, burn.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:22 AM
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I agree completely with all the points you made in this post and your information is spot on. Exxon-Mobil actually came out and stated that they expect production in 2005 to be flat or down a little. They're not making a lot of new investment in increasing their production. This indicates to me that Exxon views the risk as being too high given potential returns for their investments which means they don't expect prices to remain this high. We'll see if they're right. Demand from Asia will be the key IMO.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:54 AM
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Oil was thought to be running out by the year 2000, and now most experts, which you are not say we have 80-100 years left. People really have no idea how much oil is left.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: Oil, again

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Oil was thought to be running out by the year 2000, and now most experts, which you are not say we have 80-100 years left. People really have no idea how much oil is left.

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In Cyrus's defense (much as I hate to do that), that isnt what his post is about.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Oil, again

A few points
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Crude oil reserves, at the end of last year, stood at the equivalent of approximately 40 more years of production, if production remains at 2004 levels. You get that figure by dividing the total known 2004 reserves of crude oil by the 2004 production - which is 1,200 billion of barrels divided by 80.2 million barrels.

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The problem with this number, be it 40 years or 80 years is that it's pointless. You can't produce at full speed until the well is dry. We will have oil for a lot more than 40 years, just a bit less every year (starting at some unknown year).
It's also somewhat intellectually dishonest to report numbers quoting "todays production" when demand is growing (not directed at you, Cy, more a general comment).

As for the argument on why not more refinerys is built, there are other explanations possible, more or less likely. But let's stick to yours. The thing I don't get, maybe someone can explain it to me, is that if we will have demand growing even more the coming years, as seems to be the forecasts, then why belive prices will come down? If we add demand but don't add supply, well, hardly a recepie for falling prices.
And if we belive in reduced demand, well, then we are thinking we'll see demand destruction, aka recession, right?
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:42 PM
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I don't know that much about this particular issue. An article I read a couple weeks ago somewhere highlighted another factor that could explain why more refineries are not being built, so I thought I would throw this out to see what you oil guys think.

Basically, the thesis of that article was that the truly important variable is the rate at which oil can be extracted from a given field without endangering the field itself. The former chief geologist from Saudi Aramco said this was the case - basically that if you took too much out at once, then the whole thing might collapse for some reason and trap the remaining oil in an unextractable position. Further, he said that there really weren't any technological fixes on the horizon for this. It was just a problem of geological structures.

So the article said that the oil crunch will come not because there isn't enough oil, but because there is a ceiling on the amount of oil that can be extracted annually worldwide without threatening major oil fields, and that demand will soon push up against that ceiling because of global economic growth, creating steady pressure for prices to keep rising in order to bring supply and demand into equilibrium.

If that model is true, then there is a simple economic explanation for why oil companies aren't building refineries. If annual oil production has a ceiling, then you don't want to build refineries that would bring annual oil refining capacity past that ceiling. Or, even if we don't know exactly where that ceiling is, it makes building refineries that much riskier.

Are the assumptions of this argument reasonable?
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:45 PM
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Yeah, Reserve Life Index (RLI) is not good for practical purposes. It's an artificial minimum time limit for the reason Mostro explained as well as there being reserves added every year. There should be some substantial year over year reserves adds expected in the near future from lower quality bitumen/heavy oil/synthetic crudes as mega projects in the north kick in. XOM has got a piece there as well.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:48 PM
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I think it will just result in alternative fuel which will be a good thing. Or maybe we will have to build some refineries or have our gas be refined someone else not in the US. I dont think it will lead to a recession unless it gets above $5-6/gal at the pump.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:49 PM
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I personally think it has to do with the oil companies keeping the supply artifically low so they can sell for more money and have the supply last longer.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Whose fiqures?

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Crude oil reserves, at the end of last year, stood at the equivalent of approximately 40 more years of production, if production remains at 2004 levels. You get that figure by dividing the total known 2004 reserves of crude oil by the 2004 production - which is 1,200 billion of barrels divided by 80.2 million barrels.

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This, (I'm assuming), assumes that the Oil producing countries and Opec in particular are being truthful about their oil reserves, something they have been known to increase, with no scientific backing, when politically/financeally beneficial.
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