public school choice - the only sane approach

[ACPlayer]

School choice already exists. You can send you child to public school, private school, parochial school or home school. As a parent all those choices are valid and available.

Redistributing tax money out of public schools into private and public schools is about as dumb an idea as has been postulated by anyone recently.

I'll let 6M elaborate.

[lehighguy]

Private school vouchers are used in Ireland, Denmark, HK, and a variety of other countries. Private schools educate a majority of kids. In all of those cases the private market moved in to provide the necessary facilities. And there was no shortage of schools with tuitions exactly equal to the voucher. I mean, think of the market for a school with that price. It jsut makes economic sense.

[lehighguy]

Let me understand this. Even if I decide to send my kid to private school, I still have to pay taxes to fund a public school my kid doesn't go to. When I ask to reallocate my tax dollars to the school my child actually attends I'm stealing it?

[ACPlayer]

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When I ask to reallocate my tax dollars to the school my child actually attends I'm stealing it?

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Did I say anything about stealing? Cant you think about something without putting out red herrings? You are way too emotional in your thinking - take a deep breath and try rationality instead.

As an economics major you should see the major flaw with the vouchers. However, you have to put your personal preferences aside and think objectively.

6M knows what I am talking about.

[lehighguy]

As an economics major I see that I'm getting a lot more utility out of each tuition dollar in more effective private schools.

As an economics major I can see how effective the system has been in other countries.

[ACPlayer]

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[natedogg]

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School choice already exists for the wealthy

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Fixed your post.

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Redistributing tax money out of public schools into private and public schools is about as dumb an idea as has been postulated by anyone recently.

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So.. the two responses against school vouchers rest on the argument that it shouldn't happen because the rich would get some benefit from it too.

Brilliant. You guys would see the whole world starve before agreeing to a helpful universal policy that benefited the poor and included the rich.

Never mind addressing the argument of whether these vouchers would be good for the kids in public school. No, that's irrelevent because OH MY GOD SOME RICH PEOPLE WOULD BENEFIT!

Unbelievable the overwhelming simple-mindedness required to see the world that way.

HOW TO EVALUATE A PUBLIC POLICY THE LIBERAL/DEM/WHATEVER WAY:

1. Will the policy hurt the rich?
2. If not, oppose it.
3. Will the policy benefit the rich in any way, even if it will also benefit others?
4. If so, oppose it.
5. Ignore any and all consideration of the policy's effect on any other member of society.


natedogg

[ACPlayer]

Your fix of my post was not what I said.

I did not say anything about the rich.

First lehighguy goes off on my accusing him or stealing and now you go off with a lecture on class warfare.

Sheeesh!

[natedogg]

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Your fix of my post was not what I said.

I did not say anything about the rich.
... now you go off with a lecture on class warfare.

Sheeesh!

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No, your post said "School choice already exists" and I fixed it to say "School choice already exists for the rich" because your first statement was so glaringly wrong I assumed it was a typo.

Seriously, the rhetorical device you used, namely redefining the issue, is the same cheap tactic being used by Social Security stonewallers: "We already have private accounts, they're called 401Ks".

To say, "we already have school choice" is specious because what you are talking about is something completely different, and you know it. Try addressing the issues honestly at least. You'll get more respect from people.

natedogg

[ACPlayer]

My position on choice is totally honest.

Parents have the same choice in education as in buying health insurance for their kids, as in buying a car to transport the kids, as in buying sneakers for their kids.

This type of choice is the American choice.

So, I reject your communistic and socialist alleged fix of my post.