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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
No phones in sportsbooks is not enforced vigorously and if they start doing so after reading this thread walking 30 feet until you're outside the sportsbook sounds like a plan.
As to liquidity, Pinnacle pays out on the spot, as do several of the other large online books. Most charge a fee ranging from 10-35 dollars. (Actually Pinnacle's $35 is the only one I know of that's this high - the others are all $20 or less). Barred from a Vegas sportsbook for placing bets that are nowhere near their limit on sides that will, in almost all cases, tend to help balance their books ? - They probably won't bar you; they MIGHT insist on allowing you to scurry about town in one of their limos but be assured they will not bar you. There is, however, one small problem. The year is 2005; it will soon be 2006. We live in a time of a global economy AND that pesky internet thing. Sportsbooks have computers too, and the days of the line "coming straight from Vegas" are over. I have no figures to back this up - nobody does - but for every $1 bet in Vegas, my guess is $1,000 is bet online. Add to this the fact that Vegas lines tend to be very "bland" AND the prevalence of -110 in Vegas (lol - u ain't getting -104 in the dessert, kid) and the plan definitely does have some flaws. However (for those scoring at home that's two "howevers"; I am considering a "nevertheless" for my closing), as Mason pointed out in GT&OT, sportsbetting is a "no-ante" game, and as such there is no real downside to trying this idea. Best wishes and good luck with its implementation. Sincerely, Chris |
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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
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As to liquidity, Pinnacle pays out on the spot, as do several of the other large online books. Most charge a fee ranging from 10-35 dollars. (Actually Pinnacle's $35 is the only one I know of that's this high - the others are all $20 or less). [/ QUOTE ] pinnacle is $15 afaik. |
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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
I thought Pinnacle gave 1 free cash out a month? I'm guessing all the books charge to prevent line shopping/scalping/middling? Otherwise I'd imagine that would cost them too much in neteller fees.
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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
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I thought Pinnacle gave 1 free cash out a month? I'm guessing all the books charge to prevent line shopping/scalping/middling? Otherwise I'd imagine that would cost them too much in neteller fees. [/ QUOTE ] yes, one free withdrawl per month as long as it's more than $500. Books charge for more than one w/d a month because neteller is costing them 3.9% both ways, and their operating margin is much lower than casino and poker sites. a good sportsbook shouldn't care about scalping or any other professional action. if they hang their lines correctly, a bet on either side should be +EV for them. |
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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
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The year is 2005; it will soon be 2006. We live in a time of a global economy AND that pesky internet thing. Sportsbooks have computers too, and the days of the line "coming straight from Vegas" are over. [/ QUOTE ] That's what I'm hoping for. I basically want to use a sharp book like Pinnacle to hammer away at poorly run sportsbooks and I figure that there has to be several in Vegas that are run poorly, and lack the volume of online books which means the scalps will stay around longer and hopefully be larger. I'd ideally like to be able to find 5-10 cent scalps on a consistent basis doing this so that I would be able to win $200+ each time I did this, and be able to do it around 10 times a month. It would be something fun and a nice way to cut down the effects of the variance from playing poker. More likely though, I might be better off trying to code something like SBR Lines that automatically looks for scalps. |
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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
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No phones in sportsbooks is not enforced vigorously and if they start doing so after reading this thread walking 30 feet until you're outside the sportsbook sounds like a plan. [/ QUOTE ] Its been pretty vigorously enforced in every Vegas sportsbook I have ever been in. Whenever somebody as much as looks at their cell phone (like they might be messaging) someone from the book is on them telling them that they can't use it in the book. Its a short walk to get away from the book but they will keep an eye on cell phone use as long as you have a line of sight to the book. |
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Re: Scalping between B&M and online?
I'm assuming you can get comps from sports betting, so how do you do this and what is the value per $1,000? I'm wondering because it might make it more profitable looking for smaller scalps if I'd get an extra .5-1% in comps. (Though it is likely less than that?)
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