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Old 09-25-2005, 06:55 PM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Default 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

As far as I can tell opponent is a good tricky aggressive opponent, he doesn't seem loose.

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BB ($13128)
UTG ($15420.50)
MP ($2944)
Hero ($15647)
Button ($17418.50)
SB ($10044)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $100, Button calls $100, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1300</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $1000.

Turn: ($3000) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $1500</font>, Hero calls $1500.

River: ($6000) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

Would he play 77 this way. On that flop? He's probably got something like KJ or KQ. I lead river for 3500.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:10 PM
Psycho21 Psycho21 is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

I don't play this high or this deep, but I think the only hands that beat you are 77 and possibly J10. I would think he would raise w/ any of the pp's up there including 77, but you said he is tricky so you never know. I would raise somewhere in the neighborhood of 3k more on the turn to find out where he is at.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:15 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

What's the reasoning on not getting more in on the turn?
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:21 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

I don't like your play this far in the hand, not raising turn or river.

But with this line so far I guess C/R river is a good play.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

JT given the flop action? I don't think so.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:40 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

This isn't my game, but his hand on that flop is exactly a king or 77 and the turn looks like a 'hmm, that card sucks so I'm shutting down if he calls' bet.

I think this is a river lead for whatever a decent king will call (3K?)...but the problem is 77 will always raise the river but KQ often will as well. I'd probably figure it out when I got there.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:41 PM
mgsimpleton mgsimpleton is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

lead river for 4000... he either has two pair or 777 but 2 pair is more likely... or he hasone pair, and then i don't think he pays. i dont think i'm getting away if he raises all in though, given how aggro this game typically is. i don't love a c/r as a half pot bet on turn isn't a sure sign that he will value bet the river.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:42 PM
mgsimpleton mgsimpleton is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

if u lead for 2/3pot no way in hell KQ raises. KQ makes a crying call. are you crazy????
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 Bottom Set, Unraised Pot

I think this is a flop you'll see 77 slow played more often and worrying about it is going to be counterproductive. Once you've called that flop raise and the turn, many hands will now shut down especially with that turn Ace. I don't mind your play on either of those streets as I think nearly everything will fire a continuation raise there and shoving on the turn seems like it's asking for limited two pair hands (given this board) or 77 to crush you while you should still be able to get some value on the river versus the more common weaker hands.

This river looks like one that needs a bet.. Fire something he'll think about calling with a solid piece of the flop like a good K, and don't allow him the free showdown I'd expect him to take.
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