Need help with a San Francisco trip

[trying2learn]

My wife really wants to go to San Francisco, and while I can't think of a worse time of year to go then late December...that's when we have time and the flights were cheap.

My question is this - as far as nice, upscale hotels go...what does OOT reccommend? I've heard Renaissance Parc 55 is the best...and after googling I have about 5 others that look good...but I figured I'd ask the best for your opinions too.

[nyc999]

If you like boutique hotels - I recommend Hotel Monaco. It's a few blocks from Union Square (which isn't great in itself - but is a very central location), has cool rooms/decor and other things like free wine tastings every night, etc. I know in the summer it's around $200/night.

[M2d]

Since I live in the area, I've never stayed in any hotels around here, so I can't give you any specific recommendations on the hotels. However, you should figure out what you want to do while in town and look for a hotel in a convenient area.

[trying2learn]

thanks for the advice...I've only been once, years ago. we're gonna be doing touristy things, I would guess fisherman's wharf, cable car-ing around, haight/ashberry...etc. any suggestions for good places to check out? I don't think it will be a good time of year to go up north and do the wine country thing for a day...but maybe I'm wrong with that too.

[samjjones]

My wife and I went out in March for a couple of days, and we stayed at the Pan Pacific in Union Sq. $170 a night for 400 sq. foot room. Was very clean and quiet, near cable cars/restaurants, etc.

[M2d]

late december as in after xmas? if it's before xmas, union square area will be an absolute zoo with shoppers. after, less so, but you still catch the post holiday sales.

napa might be a bit cold and the drive back will be dark and possibly wet, as it can get rainy and the days are short then. still doable, but you don't get the late afternoon scenery that you have in the summer. less traffic around the wineries, though, which is a good thing. my wife and I went up there last superbowl weekend and it was cool. not that many people around, so no waiting around and such.

a day or overnight trip to monterey might be an option as well. a little darker than the famous pictures, but still a pretty area.

[samjjones]

We stayed in the city for the duration of our 3 day stay. In hindsight, I wish we would have taken a trip to Napa/Sonoma. Next time...

SF is a great city. You will have a good time.

[trying2learn]

we are going to be there the 27-30, so we'll dodge the shopping madness. i think we may try to go up to wine country afterall for one of the days then, as the lower trafic sounds great to me.

hotel monaco was another on the list...thanks again for the notes...

[nyc999]

In addition to Hotel Monaco, I've also stayed at the Pan Pacific (previously mentioned in this thread). It was nice, had a business traveler feel.

Napa is absolutely worth the trip. On my last trip to SF I stayed in Napa for 3 nights and SF for 4. I wish I did something like 4/5 nights Napa, 2/3 nights SF. Of course, not as much to do that time of year, but its gorgeous and there are some great places to stay. I highly recommend the Harvest Inn in St. Helena.

[Ulysses]

When you check out some prices and figure out a few hotels that might work, post them here and I'll tell you how they are.