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Old 12-18-2005, 12:06 PM
Chief911 Chief911 is offline
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Default 11r, how thee tempts me.

Late in the rebuy. I have a tight image (If anyone is paying attention), and have only shown down big hands. No particular read on villian. he is not out of line.

Level XX (10000/20000)
Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Chief911 (421130 in chips)
Seat 2: ACETEAM55555 (532555 in chips)
Seat 3: jrdowns (329418 in chips)
Seat 4: spacejam08 (237626 in chips)
Seat 6: BREWER_RICK (529570 in chips)
Seat 7: HuntingDucks (279440 in chips)
Seat 8: SicilianDfnc (297742 in chips)
Seat 9: gparker1 (263544 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chief911 [3d Ad]
spacejam08: folds
BREWER_RICK: folds
HuntingDucks: folds
ACETEAM55555 said, "i had a 4 with a 2 kicker"
ACETEAM55555 said, "lol"
SicilianDfnc: folds
gparker1: folds
Chief911: raises 40000 to 60000
ACETEAM55555: calls 50000
Chief911 said, "thats a hot hand"
jrdowns: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 7d 8d]
ACETEAM55555: checks

How do you proceed from here? I'm probably 7th or 8th in overall stack.

Nick
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:17 PM
1p0kerb0y 1p0kerb0y is offline
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

I bet ~80K but there is only one way I'm getting off this hand. If he check-raises all-in I call. If he calls and checks the turn I'm taking a free card. If he calls and bets big on the turn I fold.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

I continue bet 1/2 pot. He could have called w/ AK to AT or any pair or high suited connectors. If he comes back over the top, see what the pot odds are for the call or fold decision on hitting the flush, the flop probably helped him.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

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I continue bet 1/2 pot. He could have called w/ AK to AT or any pair or high suited connectors. If he comes back over the top, see what the pot odds are for the call or fold decision on hitting the flush, the flop probably helped him.

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I don't like a continuation bet. With a draw, either bet big or check behind. If you are going to continuation bet, push to a raise.

You could even just push. It might look like a draw, but it might be hard to call with the coordinated board.

The flush draw plus ace is pretty strong. I would play it strongly and try to take down the pot.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:28 PM
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I would lean heavily on a read here. If I felt he was going for a checkraise, then, naturally, I check. If he was pretty straightforward or I have seen villain call similar raises then fold to a postflop bet, then I probably bet near the pot size, w/ the intention of getting it all-in if he checkraises. If I have no reads, I probably take the safe route and take my free card.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

Why not push? Villian knows at best he has a coin flip...
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:32 PM
1p0kerb0y 1p0kerb0y is offline
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

I feel that pushing is also a very good option.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

What's wrong with just pushing? There is 140K in the pot and you have 360K. Even against a set or straight, you have significant outs. If you get called by a pair, it is close with pot odds.

The push looks suspicious, but it is hard for villain to know if it is a strong flush draw, a strong striaght draw, an over pair, or two pair.

You could also make a probe bet of say 40K. If villain calls, you get a chance to make your flush. If villain folds, that's great. If villain raises, push.

Calling in the SB, villain could have hit this flop hard or completely missed it. But let him make the tough decision.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

I generally dont like laying 3/1 odds with this little information on the opponents hand. It is a situation where you are likely to be called by better hands, and worse hands fold.

However, he simply called a possible steal pre-flop, so you cant put him on very much, and his flop check is very risky with a medium-strong hand with that board.

The A may well be good right now and without a draw to the nut flush he's got a very hard time calling a push.

With all of the FE and the flush draw I like the push too.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 11r, how thee tempts me.

I think the question here is are there any arguments against a standard continuation bet, like 2/3 the pot?

edit: Posted this without seeing other responses. Not sure if I like a push just b/c you're putting your whole tourney on the line here. Something about villian's play makes me suspect a high pair. That would be how I would play a high pair in his situation.
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