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[James282]

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This is the kind of hand that never makes sense online, but I've done this live too. You just know that when the guy bets the turn he has absolutely nothing.

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Then is there any reason we don't raise the turn?
-James

[Eric P]

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I'm playing a lot of full ring these days. I'm in the drunkest and most incoherent shape of my life; I couldn't feel better. The game was 2-4, 9 players at the Imperial Palace. The taste of delicious, partially hydrogenated cookies filled my mouth. The action was folded to me; I look down at AK in the cutoff and raise. The button and big blind call. The flop comes, 862, rainbow. It's checked to me, and I bet. Everyone folds.

Victory.

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Brilliant

[I.Rowboat]

Remember, it takes a bigger hand to call than it does to raise. Assume everyone at the table knows this. Tommy's call on the turn would be very ominous to the right kind of observant player, especially one who happens to be bluffing. Ironically, a raise in this spot can suggest weakness, whereas a call suggests, "give yourself a bit more rope, buddy." Sometimes, subtlety is more effective than aggression; just another way of playing poker. As the saying goes, "if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail."

[Klepton]

bet the flop. raise the turn.

i miss bison.

[jason_t]

I'm not sure if I understand; why not raise the turn?

[Justin A]

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This is the kind of hand that never makes sense online, but I've done this live too. You just know that when the guy bets the turn he has absolutely nothing.

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Then is there any reason we don't raise the turn?
-James

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If our opponent is on a draw then he'll call and we have to follow through on the river. Seems like this is a cheaper way to get the same result, and we can only put in the second bet when our opponent misses his draw and checks the river.

[Paluka]

I prefer calling to raising as well against the type of opponent I think this is. He won't continue a bluff on the river, and he will likely view a turn raise with more suspicion than a turn call (and with good reason). When you just call the turn on this board, it looks like you just want a showdown.

[danderso8]

Excellent observation, rowboat. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[anatta]

Flop checked around, the board pairs and BB bets out. I suspect if Tommy raised, due to the quality of opponent, he would get re-raised a decent amount, as BB knows Tommy knows that BB is bluffing a lot here.

Like the other guy said, the call here is sometimes more scary and looks like some slowplay. The problem is the BB will follow through on river due to the flush draw (he will hope Tommy has it and will fold river), but here he didn't so the river plays itself.

awesome!