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Old 10-04-2005, 04:16 AM
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how's chau vu doing?
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:23 PM
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It's funny sometimes (funny peculiar not funny amusing) how easy it is for me to see, as an observing bystander, and think, "This guy has pocket aces, I'd fold with a loser," when I'm sitting at the table observing two other players battle it out. And then when I get into the fray, I guess it's just as easy to see but not so easy to throw away top pair or an overpair.

Which separates a good player like me from a great player like Tommy.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:12 PM
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I took the big blind. Player A folded. Player B had the button. He "never" openlimps on the button, but he did this time, and because of his fatigue, his almost-raise-but-just-call was so transparent that Player C, in the small blind, let out a rare HA! laugh while he called two chips. I checked in the big blind with Q-10. Three players to the flop with me second.

The flop came 10-9-4. The small blind checked, I checked, the button bet, the small blind called, and I folded.

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Can someone spell out for the forum newbs/lurkers how this works?

I have only played live once and I understand that for some read-based stuff that sometimes "you just know."

However, Tommy supplied all this info and a bunch of you are going "oh yeah, nice laydown."

What sepicifcally in what Tommy said let you put this guy on an overpair or AA specifically? And how is the small blinds actions related to the flop fold?

It took me a couple readings of the post to kind of "get it" but I still kind of feeling like I'm just pretending to get it. Any help appreciated.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:29 PM
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Nice game selection.
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Old 10-04-2005, 02:18 PM
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I often get an 'Emperor's new clothes' feeling with Tommy's posts as well. I think the point is that when someone limps in a shorthanded game its often because they don't JUST want to steal the blinds, usually because they've got a monster. But I'm not sure I 'get' it either [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 10-04-2005, 02:38 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Tommy,

This is a great post. It really encourages me because I know that when I'm feeling really good about my game I feel capable of making laydowns like this but when I'm playing poorly I almost never can and start second guessing my impulses.

Best one I ever made was somewhat similar.

Borgata 20/40

The MP cold-caller in question is an interesting nitty regular who likes to show up at the 20/40 and play only as long as is necessary for him to show ANY profit, after which he likes to leave and go sailing. He talks way to much, and has spent much of the past couple of days explaining to my friend and I (naive, mathematical college students, of course) that "all that probability stuff is bullsh..."

I open raise with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] after a couple of folds. A terrible player cold-calls, the villain-sailor-probability hater calls, one blind completes.

Flop: T 7 3 rainbow.

I look over and the villain-sailor-probability hater actually shows his cards to my friend, who is sitting right next to him.

I bet, the villain-sailor calls and the terrible BB calls.

Turn is a 6.

Villain-sailor now verbally says "just look at that... do you see that..." and gets a big smile on his face.

I check, villain bets confidently, BB folds, and I fold.

Villain later tables 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and says "I never lose with a 45 suited. So you can take your probability [censored] and shove it right up your ass."
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:37 PM
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take your probability [censored] and shove it right up your ass."

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And people say there aren't enough good quotes for memorable T-shirts...

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Old 10-04-2005, 05:22 PM
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Best one I ever made was somewhat similar.


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Villain-sailor now verbally says "just look at that... do you see that..." and gets a big smile on his face.


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Only the subtlest of minds playing their A game can pick up on a tell so undetectable to mere humans.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:51 PM
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Really sorry to hear you didnt get your button Tommy. Hang in there tho man. Maybe next time they'll go bust when your about to get the BB.

My thoughts and prayers are with you in these hard felt times.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:38 PM
MrFeelNothin MrFeelNothin is offline
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My thoughts and prayers are with you in these hard felt times.

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pun intended?
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