Why you should never check/fold hu when capped preflop.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

[pokergrader]

Bet/fold &gt; check/call &gt; bet/call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; check/fold

why would you check/call?

what are you possibly ahead off?

bet/fold = check/fold &gt;&gt;&gt; check/call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; bet/call

C/r and fold to a 3bet; if called out of spite lead turn and fold to a raise etc

[MicroBob]

bet/fold can NOT equal check/fold as you just demonstrated.

bet/fold has an opportunity to take the pot even while holding a worse hand than your opponent (and check/fold obviously does not).


as far as "what hand are we possibly ahead of here?"
I've seen opponents who cap 77 PF just because they are WAY over-zealous. Obviously they would fold if bet to...but checking to them gives an opportunity for them to take it with a worse hand.
It's possible...though obviously not likely.

[the_main]

I usually just open-fold the flop here when I see the overcard. Somebody always has an ace.

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bet/fold can NOT equal check/fold as you just demonstrated.

bet/fold has an opportunity to take the pot even while holding a worse hand than your opponent (and check/fold obviously does not).


as far as "what hand are we possibly ahead of here?"
I've seen opponents who cap 77 PF just because they are WAY over-zealous. Obviously they would fold if bet to...but checking to them gives an opportunity for them to take it with a worse hand.
It's possible...though obviously not likely.

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O RLY?

btw, if anyone is interested in what button had....

[einbert]

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Bet/fold &gt; check/call &gt; bet/call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; check/fold

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Dude check/calling sucks horribly here and is way worse than check/folding.

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I usually just open-fold the flop here when I see the overcard. Somebody always has an ace.

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No they dont.