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Old 12-20-2005, 06:46 PM
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"There is no discernible difference between that and "nothing", is there?"

There is material nothingness and immaterial nothingness. That there was no material before a Big Bang can be true. But that there was no power or immeasurable intellect before material cannot be true.
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:49 PM
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if the big bang theory could be proved by experiment in a laboratory setting. that would be the artificial creation of life. only of God is supposed to be able to create life. so your saying that the 100 or so people who can reproduce this act would be considered gods. its called the miracle of life because only god can do it. if any dick and tom can create life its no longer a miracle. religons are created to explain how life began and what happens after. if you could artificially create life there would be no need for religon anymore.
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:51 PM
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"There is no discernible difference between that and "nothing", is there?"

There is material nothingness and immaterial nothingness. That there was no material before a Big Bang can be true. But that there was no power or immeasurable intellect before material cannot be true.

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OK, but it doesn't make sense to talk about a time before the big bang. I don't see how it would be a problem for God to exist independently of time, though.
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:59 PM
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if the big bang theory could be proved by experiment in a laboratory setting. that would be the artificial creation of life. only of God is supposed to be able to create life. so your saying that the 100 or so people who can reproduce this act would be considered gods. its called the miracle of life because only god can do it. if any dick and tom can create life its no longer a miracle. religons are created to explain how life began and what happens after. if you could artificially create life there would be no need for religon anymore.

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I want to point out that God and religion are not the same thing.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:07 PM
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really?
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:09 PM
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there would be no christian or catholic religon without God
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:15 PM
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there would be no christian or catholic religon without God

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Correct, but this doesn't mean they are the same.

If you believe God exists:

1) God is... well, God.

2) Religions are methods of worship.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:26 PM
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Semantics
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:28 PM
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if there is no god there is no need for religon. all religons worship a god.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:40 PM
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i take that back not all religons worship a god. but most do.
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