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Old 05-09-2005, 10:19 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push?

Is the right play to call here, or wait for SS to blind out?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t1290)
SB (t2870)
BB (t600)
UTG (t3240)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1500</font>, Hero...????
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push?

call.

he's not dead yet and if you double you play for first.
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push?

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call.

he's not dead yet and if you double you play for first.

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What if I told you this was a $215?
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push


You should call, and if you told us its a $215 you'd be a liar because there arent enough chips in play. The SB isnt almost blinded out yet. If he was allin with 5 chips maybe itd be close, but 600 is too much.
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push?

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call.

he's not dead yet and if you double you play for first.

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What if I told you this was a $215?

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call faster?
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:30 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push

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You should call, and if you told us its a $215 you'd be a liar because there arent enough chips in play. The SB isnt almost blinded out yet. If he was allin with 5 chips maybe itd be close, but 600 is too much.

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Yeah, my question was more to shed light on whether the play would change based on buy-in. I should have phrased it better.

Is there ever a level where a fold here makes sense?

I called, BTW.
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:38 PM
Sykes Sykes is offline
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push

Here's an odd one. Why would UTG risk half of the 2nd largest stack if he's just making an opening raise. A raise of 8x bb (again, enough to call an all-in if he has to) looks suspicious and probably means I'm holding the nuts hand (AA/KK/QQ/AK).

Or it could be a total bluff, but I doubt it and my instict here would be to fold with no reads.
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push

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Here's an odd one. Why would UTG risk half of the 2nd largest stack if he's just making an opening raise.

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Yeah, exactly. I wasn't sure what to make of it either.

I took it to mean "I have a marginal hand that I don't want action with."

I was right - he had KQ.

Knowing that, I am happy with the call. I just wanted to make sure it was correct as I have been folding JJ and QQ lately when I should have been calling.
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Old 05-10-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push

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I was right - he had KQ.

Knowing that, I am happy with the call.

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Wait wait wait, u DO NOT want to call if he pushes and flips over KQ. He shold be doing this w/ any two cards, so the call is fine on THAT basis, not because he specifically had KQ this hand.
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Old 05-10-2005, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: JJ on the bubble. Small stack almost blinded out. Do I call a push

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Wait wait wait, u DO NOT want to call if he pushes and flips over KQ. He shold be doing this w/ any two cards, so the call is fine on THAT basis, not because he specifically had KQ this hand.

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Do you are saying that if I somehow _knew_ he had KQ, I should have folded, because it's a coinflip?
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