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Resteal by a solid opponent
Normally this would be an insta muck. However, stack sizes.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) converter Hero (t2388) Button (t3081) SB (t2443) BB (t1245) UTG (t2210) MP (t2133) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1245</font>, Hero ??? |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
Drops it - fast.
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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Drops it - fast. [/ QUOTE ] Look at my pot odds. This isn't nearly that obvious. |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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[ QUOTE ] Drops it - fast. [/ QUOTE ] Look at my pot odds. This isn't nearly that obvious. [/ QUOTE ] I call here every time. You're being offered 2:1 on a hand that is very rarely going to be worse than a 60-40 dog. Apart from just looking at it via pot odds, there is also the "metagame" of showing that you were "stealing" with a reasonably strong hand, and that at the same time you won't back down from resteals. Add to that the fact that you still have a legitimate chance of recovering if you lose the pot, I think this is a definite call. |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
Yes, you have pot odds. But if you fold you still have 1900 and can go for another steal and still have 10bb if that fails, too. If you call this, you drop way down to ~1200 and all your future plays are gone. I really don't think it's worth it.
If I am in BB's position I love when people call with KQo in this position from a steal, as I usually have them dominated, and their 2:1 isn't in fact 2:1 at all. I really think pot odds are over-rated when it impacts on your ability to stack-build with a healthy amount of chips. I believe it's "letting go of some (probably only minor, too) EV here to gain more +EV possibilities later". |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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Yes, you have pot odds. But if you fold you still have 1900 and can go for another steal and still have 10bb if that fails, too. If you call this, you drop way down to ~1200 and all your future plays are gone. I really don't think it's worth it. [/ QUOTE ] 1200 is still a reasonable stack of 8BBs. Obviously you are the shorty, but you still have plenty of FE to go with your stack. If you win on the other hand you have the additional leverage of being the big stack. The pots odds are good enough that I think this is a pretty easy call. |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
I think SNG's are way too fast to fold here. The only hands you are afraid of are KK/AA. You are getting 2:1 so unless you KNEW they had AA/KK you are still getting odds to call. So what if you have 1200 chips, yes you aren't sitting well but you aren't dead yet.
If you aren't willing to call this push then fold preflop. |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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I think SNG's are way too fast to fold here. The only hands you are afraid of are KK/AA. You are getting 2:1 so unless you KNEW they had AA/KK you are still getting odds to call. So what if you have 1200 chips, yes you aren't sitting well but you aren't dead yet. If you aren't willing to call this push then fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] And AK, AQ, QQ. |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
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I think SNG's are way too fast to fold here. The only hands you are afraid of are KK/AA. You are getting 2:1 so unless you KNEW they had AA/KK you are still getting odds to call. [/ QUOTE ] If I *knew* he had AK or AQ or QQ I should fold as well. |
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Re: Resteal by a solid opponent
SNGs are way to fast to be blowing half of your stack on a call like this. You are a dog to any pair and any Ace. Just get rid of it. You are not desperate, just fold and be done with it.
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