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(LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
I've been seeing this all the time lately...Can someone explain this to me?
(No sarcasm - I actually want to know the thought process behind it...IF there is one...) PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) converter Button (t4045) SB (t4380) Hero (t6575) Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1800</font>, SB calls t1200. Flop: (t3400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t2530</font>, Hero calls t730. ================ I *KNOW* the guy outplayed me with his paired King-in-the-hole POST-flop... ...felt priced into calling his all-in... (Should I fold there?..) I only ever will make this play against a villain who I think will check/fold the flop *IF* he calls the raise PF and *IF* he doesn't pair. I know that I get aggressive late in tourneys and the guy thinks to double up if he hits...but he loses half his stack when he doesn't... So.... 1/3 of the time he doubles up... 2/3 of the time he loses half his stack... In all honesty - I want to know what these fish/weak-tight players are thinking. Edit: I'm gonna start check/folding King high flops in these spots. |
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
Your completion/no raise was shouting weakness to him. Hate to say this, but he outplayed you preflop too.
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
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Your completion/no raise was shouting weakness to him. Hate to say this, but he outplayed you preflop too. [/ QUOTE ] Re-read post please. You got it backwards. His completion/no raise shouted weakness to ME. |
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
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Your completion/no raise was shouting weakness to him. Hate to say this, but he outplayed you preflop too. [/ QUOTE ] So you think Hero is actually the SB and not the BB? I don't have a response for the hand tho. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] I'da checked behind a 'spect. |
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
The big blind is t600, he has 4000 behind, if your going to raise him, put him all in.
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
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The big blind is t600, he has 4000 behind, if your going to raise him, put him all in. [/ QUOTE ] that could easily be the real lesson here.... Incidently I've done the same move deeper stacked w/re-raises (and better Aces) and still gotten called from King highs before.. no comments on the even possible fishie thinking? |
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
well, reraising someone is different than what your doing here.
His limp says that he wants to see a flop as cheap as possible (or he is trapping with AK,AA-QQ), by pushing your making it as expensive as possible. Obviously he doesn't want this and will fold. In my limited use of this play the SB has folded about 80% of the time. |
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
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In my limited use of this play the SB has folded about 80% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Mine too....thus the point of the play... and I figure his check means: a) Top pair b) He has crap and will fold Worth the shot on the flop? He could pair the turn if I don't.... but a shot on the turn is probably better as I'm reducing the cards that beat me to ONE (from three)... assuming he'd bet the king on the turn if I checked the flop... |
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
i push preflop
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Re: (LC) Plauged by a play I don\'t understand....
Just jam preflop. Much easier.
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