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Old 11-30-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default TPTK Flop c/r

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Hero ($135.70)
Button ($99.75)
SB ($154.90)
BB ($58.45)
UTG ($47.10)
UTG+1 ($114.25)
UTG+2 ($89.57)
MP1 ($160.19)
MP2 ($96.60)
MP3 ($88.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, SB (poster) calls $1.50, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($14) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, Button folds, SB calls $10, BB calls $10, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $35</font>, MP1 folds, Hero ......

No real reads on any opponents. Not sure what the correct flop play is here. What range of hands are you giving to UTG+1? SB? BB? Thanks.
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: TPTK Flop c/r

BUMP

Anyone?
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:48 PM
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I probably would've reraise preflop...I don't like letting minraises through when i have a good hand, they tend to get too many callers (which they did).

I'd probably call here on the flop and reevaluate the turn, but I'm not sure thats correct.
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:34 PM
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I probably would've reraise preflop...I don't like letting minraises through when i have a good hand, they tend to get too many callers (which they did).

I'd probably call here on the flop and reevaluate the turn, but I'm not sure thats correct.

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I agree with this. You're calling $25 into a $69 pot, and you've got position, so I think calling is fine. On turn the pot will be $94 and eff. stacks will be $77, so I'd probably check behind (or fold to a bet) on a blank turn and call reasonable river bet, since any turn bet will commit us and we want as cheap of a showdown as possible. Hopefully we can get to it thanks to our position.

I think if the C/R was bigger we could get away from this, but I like the odds + position.

The minraise from EP could be anything, including 22, 33, 23s, but TPGK + other garbage seems well within his range to defend his donkbet.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:07 PM
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I probably would've reraise preflop...I don't like letting minraises through when i have a good hand, they tend to get too many callers (which they did).

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How much do you make it? Do you want to get this heads up or do you want to put in enough to invite a blind along?

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I agree with this. You're calling $25 into a $69 pot, and you've got position, so I think calling is fine. On turn the pot will be $94 and eff. stacks will be $77, so I'd probably check behind (or fold to a bet) on a blank turn and call reasonable river bet, since any turn bet will commit us and we want as cheap of a showdown as possible. Hopefully we can get to it thanks to our position.

I think if the C/R was bigger we could get away from this, but I like the odds + position.

The minraise from EP could be anything, including 22, 33, 23s, but TPGK + other garbage seems well within his range to defend his donkbet.

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Does the fact that he c/r when both the SB and BB called my bet affect what hands he will raise w/ here? Or can his bet still be a bluff - as in either 1) air, 2) spades or, 3) lower pair than Q's - and we have the best hand?

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