Blind steal situation against a superLAG

goofball · #1 12-17-2005, 12:28 AM

veryLAG opens on the button, SB folds, I just call in the BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

flop is: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check, he bets, I call.

turn is a 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I check, he bets, I raise, he calls.

river is a 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I bet, he raises, I call.

Standard and boring right?

#2 12-17-2005, 12:34 AM

I probably go 3bet preflop bet bet bet/call.

*your line works too, but you are putting in an extra bet if you are beat. Though, I'd say that both lines are fine

NobodysFreak · #3 12-17-2005, 12:37 AM

I like it. I might lead the flop, but not 100% of the time.

#4 12-17-2005, 12:41 AM

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I like it. I might lead the flop, but not 100% of the time.

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what's your reasoning for leading the flop?

NobodysFreak · #5 12-17-2005, 01:01 AM

We've got TPGK against a LAG who could be raising any hand including a weaker ace. We bet/he raises/we call. Check-raise the turn, bet the river. We pick up an extra SB.

Basically, if he's a superLAG, he's not folding any part of this flop. I think we can take a few more bets out of him on it.

#6 12-17-2005, 01:05 AM

what about the times he 3bets you on the turn? What about the times he folds on the turn? I don't know if you are getting as many bets in as you think.

NobodysFreak · #7 12-17-2005, 01:25 AM

If he 3-bets here we call down. Our read on him is that he's a superLAG which I'm taking to mean he can have just about any two cards here and he's unlikely to fold if he catches any part of the board. If we lead into him on the flop, he's likely to raise us with anything.

If he folds to our turn check-raise we take down the pot, but I don't think leading into him on the flop would cause him to be any less likely to call our check-raise.

#8 12-17-2005, 01:32 AM

is villian really stupid/ignorant enough to think that if we lead the flop, call his raise. Then c/r the turn that his J8 has any chance of winning. And that is assuming he even hit the flop. Maybe I am just giving him too much credit.

NobodysFreak · #9 12-17-2005, 01:42 AM

You might be right. I'm taking superLAG here to mean a guy with a VPIP between 50-60, with a pfr of about 25. Basically a donk who chases any ace and bets the flop with as much as bottom pair. These are the types of opponents I love cause they'll call to keep you honest.

goofball · #10 12-17-2005, 03:16 AM

Against this guy I think betting the flop is better. I sort of took my line for metagame reasons, I think the c/c c/r raise line backs people off, and annoys them, and makes them call you down weak, and generally does good metagame things. Isolated I think bet-3bet is definitely better against this opponent and might just be better not isoalted either.

superLAG does mean 60/30 whatever and it does mean paying off all the way with any pair at all.