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Old 11-30-2005, 05:16 PM
JMP300z JMP300z is offline
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

or AK
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

Raise the flop.

He ain't gonna believe you.
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

Uh, notice the PF action? Notice the 3 spades up? notice the paired board? I think KQo is all but impossible. I think a real question is, is AK spades possible here.
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

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or AK

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I don't think we see AK here.
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

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i would be betting more than 1/2 pot on the turn.. more like 2/3-3/4 or PSB

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Shouldnt we assume villain has:

1) AA/KK no spade- a pot sized bet- there is a very good chance he folds

2) AA/KK spade, he is way more likely to call 100, than 200, and he commits more chips if a spade falls.

30 AK w/ a spade- He calls 100 but not 200 probably, either way he is drawing dead, so I think 100 is better.

Where am I off?

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at this point i dont think the difference of $50 more is going to matter..
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:19 PM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

Maybe he's hoping you're good enough to know that. If he really had AA and knows that you have a hand that's worth some action, won't he try to check-raise here sometimes?

I just think there's > 0% chance that the opponent is bluffing here. How often does he need to bluff in order for a call to be +EV?
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

he can have any two spades.. i'm not reading too much into pre flop action cuz the guys in this game jack it up like crazy pre flop
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

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he can have any two spades.. i'm not reading too much into pre flop action cuz the guys in this game jack it up like crazy pre flop

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eh. not too much really.
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:22 PM
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ok then fold.. he has AA
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: If there was ever a time to fold a boat... (NL400 6/max)

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Raise the flop.

He ain't gonna believe you.

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Do you want to let AK off the hook that easily? I don't.
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