Ansky451 is weak-tight at heart*

[ansky451]

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ignore the fact that he hasn't put you AI yet

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Why? It is relevent, it changes the numbers.

EDIT: Also, you totally disregard the SB?

[adanthar]

Solely because of the position, I am calling this and don't think twice about it.

[ansky451]

Results...


I thought in a best case scenario he had AK, but the raise, and timing felt more like a big pair. After much deliberation I folded.

The SB called, and they got it all in on the flop- SB had A9s with a flush draw, and bb had kings. I was pretty confident about the fold, but I thought without a real specific read itd be pretty bad.

[CardSharpCook]

Those numbers assumed that you would push for 3200 instead of calling for 2400. I don't think you have any FE, nor do I think you're foolish enough to just call. Was I wrong? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Yes, I am ignoring the SB who should fold after a raise, reraise, and a push. Hell, he is welcome to call with any hand that he flat called in the SB with.

[betgo]

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Solely because of the position, I am calling this and don't think twice about it.

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This is a restealing situation. I don't think you have a good enough read online that villain needs a standard raising hand to push.

Plus you only need 37% with pot odds. You are 20% against a higher pair and 57% against AK. AK-AQ are a lot more common than TT-AA. Even if AK-AQ, TT-AA is villain's range, this is a call.

If you raise with KTo and I push from the BB, you have a pot odds call.

This is a terrible fold.

[Jason Strasser]

wtf world do you play in.

You have 15bb open from the button and one of the blinds pushes back??

for heavens sake stick it in there it doesnt seem close.

-Jason

[Jason Strasser]

Remember that to win this tournament you need like 3M chips.

Passing on obviously slightly EV spots is dumb.

-Jason

[EverettKings]

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wtf world do you play in.

You have 15bb open from the button and one of the blinds pushes back??

for heavens sake stick it in there it doesnt seem close.

-Jason

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I think you missed the read.

SB called and uber tight BB basically sets you all in? I think TT+/AK or JJ+/AK is the range you're looking at here. With 44:26 (1.7:1) effective odds you need 37% equity. You don't have the odds against that range. Don't forget that the SB is still in there.

And nh on Sunday.

Everett

[whiskeytown]

going by your description and the type of play (extended time before raising) - I would say, although it could be a number of things...

that long hesitation before a call or raise is usually a tell of a monster....and your reads on him...ah yah - lay it down.

RB

EDIT - I saw your results -- yah - that was an old Caro tell - one of the few I remember - I do it sometimes if I want to see a check - I'll just check and they'll think twice before betting -

and sometimes I'm just late getting back to the PC and I see AA.

RB

[betgo]

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wtf world do you play in.

You have 15bb open from the button and one of the blinds pushes back??

for heavens sake stick it in there it doesnt seem close.

-Jason

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I think you missed the read.

SB called and uber tight BB basically sets you all in? I think TT+/AK or JJ+/AK is the range you're looking at here. With 44:26 (1.7:1) effective odds you need 37% equity. You don't have the odds against that range. Don't forget that the SB is still in there.

And nh on Sunday.

Everett

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It is very unlikely that SB flat called with TT-AA, so I don't see the problem in SB being in the hand. SB being in the hand makes for a fatter pot to push at.

Maybe BB just hasn't had any cards. If the table is playing loose, I will often play real tight.

I just can't see how you can put someone on a range tight enough that this isn't a pot odds call with 99.

OP is weak tight. This fold is almost as bad as the alleged fold in the Gigabet post.