$33- Loosening up

bones · #1 10-30-2005, 05:47 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t800)
UTG (t430)
UTG+1 (t645)
MP1 (t1085)
MP2 (t1165)
MP3 (t695)
CO (t1640)
Hero (t725)
SB (t815)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Hero calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t85, SB folds, BB calls t85, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t85.

Turn: (t405) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t405) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t405

Anyone try to value-bet the river?

Insty · #2 10-30-2005, 07:18 AM

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Anyone try to value-bet the river?

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Why bother - you're only getting called when you're behind.

tigerite · #3 10-30-2005, 07:20 AM

Don't check the turn, the board has paired and there's two flush draws out there.

The Yugoslavian · #4 10-30-2005, 07:29 AM

Dude.....I fuc ked up last night....I think I called yiou....I apologize....with any lu7ck everythign is somewhat ok now.....again.......these things have been known to happen....bones.....ur a good friend.

Yugoslav

otctrader · #5 10-30-2005, 08:19 AM

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Don't check the turn, the board has paired and there's two flush draws out there.

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Settle it on the turn, try to take a free showdown if called. Also what's the plan if you're C/R'd on the flop? The T85 bet smells on the 2-suited board, and gives MP2 almost 4-1. Are you making that same bet if you flop two-pair/set?

bones · #6 10-30-2005, 03:49 PM

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Don't check the turn, the board has paired and there's two flush draws out there.

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No way I bet this turn. I put them on a draw, underpair, or maybe a 9. If I bet this and they are decent (neither had really done anything donkish so far), it's very easy for them to c-raise semi-bluff me since a scare card hit. Since my made hand is weak (and may not be the best hand, but probably is), I can't call.

Besides that, I'm not thrilled about putting more chips into the pot.

microbet · #7 10-30-2005, 04:07 PM

You called me and woke up my kids you idiot. My little one cried for 1/2 an hour and my wife was pissed off. Thanks a lot!

applejuicekid · #8 10-30-2005, 04:10 PM

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Anyone try to value-bet the river?

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Why bother - you're only getting called when you're behind.

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Really? What hands are these? Seriously think about what hands would play it like this then call the river and have him beat.

I can't think of a good reason to not value bet this river, and I would do so almost everytime.

The Yugoslavian · #9 10-30-2005, 07:09 PM

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You called me and woke up my kids you idiot. My little one cried for 1/2 an hour and my wife was pissed off. Thanks a lot!

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I *really* hope you're kidding. Because this could easily have happened, [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

#10 10-30-2005, 07:23 PM

So you might get called by JT. That is the only hand that makes any sense for the value bet.

Otherwise, you'll get called by KJ or AJ and reraised by anything bigger than that. If you can see a showdown for free with that board and two players, I'd definitely go for it.