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Old 10-27-2005, 06:18 PM
TheJunkyardGod TheJunkyardGod is offline
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Default QQ getting raised on the flop

Literally the 4th hand i'm dealt.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

Is it best to 3-bet now or wait until the turn. Also, are pocket jacks even to be considered?
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

Yes (3-bet) and not yet (worrying about a set).
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

3-bet. We have dead money/turn cards we hate.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

In light of Button raising the pf raiser (you) on the flop and SB cold-calling the Button, I'm very concerned about set, 2-pair, and slowplayed AA-KK. I probably call down.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

Boooo.

The Button probably has a Jack.

The SB probably has two cards.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

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In light of Button raising the pf raiser (you) on the flop and SB cold-calling the Button, I'm very concerned about set, 2-pair, and slowplayed AA-KK. I probably call down.

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Is this a joke?
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

I would 3-bet now while SB is committed to seeing the turn. I am not concerned about JJ yet.

Edit: No way am I calling down from here.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:03 PM
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Boooo.

The Button probably has a Jack.

The SB probably has two cards.

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AHHHH! You scared me. Lol. Okay, maybe it's the time of the year.

But, seriously, someone please explain why I shouldn't be a little wary here in light of Hero having represented a large hand pre-flop and on the flop, yet he gets raised and then cold-called ( and 2 more, including the raiser, are left to act behind me)? No joke, sorry.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:07 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: QQ getting raised on the flop

Button will probably raise top pair instinctivly. Button will probably put our hero on a single hand (as bad players regularly do) like AK and wants to punish him.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:10 PM
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Button will probably raise top pair instinctivly. Button will probably put our hero on a single hand (as bad players regularly do) like AK and wants to punish him.

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Fair enough. But what about the SB, who cold-called? Also, at what point do you think you're most likely against a set, etc?
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