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Old 10-26-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default $430 hand #2

Button is loose player from the previous hand, MP1 is a $430 regular.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t1680)
MP3 (t950)
CO (t1060)
Button (t1263)
Hero (t770)
BB (t930)
UTG (t1300)
UTG+1 (t802)
MP1 (t1245)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t60, Hero calls t45, BB calls t30.

Flop: (t240) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t240) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t175</font>, Button calls t175, Hero raises [t725] , BB folds, MP1 folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: t590
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: $430 hand #2


Yeah, I'm 12 tabling the 430's now, let me take a crack [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

This turn card - no brainer IMO. Absolutely perfect card (OPFr is not checking behind on a FD+SD flop w/ an overpair)

Can I assume...

- you were looking to c/r the flop as well? Obviously a better than expected flop. Enough here to c-r, or were you in c-c/f mode?

- you were c/f'ing an overcard on the turn, facing a similar lead? Or were you planning to c/r regardless of this turn, thinking you could sell a made flop hand that failed on the c/r attempt?
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: $430 hand #2

What makes you certain Button(loose player) didnt limp with a8s, 89 87 k8s, e.t.c
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:27 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: $430 hand #2

I would fold pf, but I suppose that calling isn't bad.

On the turn I would lead out to keep from giving another free card.
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Old 10-26-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: $430 hand #2

[ QUOTE ]
What makes you certain Button(loose player) didnt limp with a8s, 89 87 k8s, e.t.c

[/ QUOTE ]

Loose, but not out of line. The type of loose that would probably bet middle pair on the button when checked to.

And yes, I was looking to c-raise the flop. I usually fold this, but there were a few compelling reasons to call pf.
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Old 10-26-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: $430 hand #2

I'd be tempted to make that play no matter what my two cards were, as long as I feel I can put enough pressure on the button to fold a draw. If MP1 is any kind of player, you can reason that there is no way he matched that flop. Even if he had 99, he would know better than to give a free card most likely. So the strongest hand he could have is a high pocket pair (which is also unlikely, for the same reason as 99 is unlikely), which is extremely scary and extremely fold-able with that flop and betting action to him.
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