50/100 unraised pot, little help probably boring

[SuperJez]

I think the cold call by the button of a bet and raise before him has to be either a draw or a set, both of which have you crushed on the turn so I would have to muck it there to the pot bet.

[KaneKungFu123]

lead turn, or check-fold.

[SuperJez]

Of course you have some good redraws, but you have no implied odds for if you hit them on the river so I would check/fold this turn to that bet

Jez

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he has top pair, his hand is good some % of the time, and because he has the A he isnt making a huge mistake calling regardless of what hands the villains have.

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So after saying all that can we agree that the turn call is -EV because it is such a transparant draw? Even with the boat redraws given he will lose sometimes if the villian spikes quads on the river. Since we believe sometimes he has a flush he has less flushing outs as well.

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Nice 1st post btw.

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Sarcasm?

edit, i'm an idiot. i was talking about the turn and you were talking about the flop but i dont want to delete it all.

[AceHiStation]

I haven't read the responses yet... but I like a call here. Button limps behind preflop. I'm not willing to put him on 99, I think 44 and 66 are possbilities, but I'm willing to pay him off. I don't think he bets that hard with a flush, especially when it isn't the nut. Button could easily be making a position play but more likely I put villain on tripp 9s: 9Ts, J9s, K9, etc. I assume 4-handed on the button he is calling a lot of hands here, and think the possibility of him holding that 4th 9 is very likely.

[LearnedfromTV]

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I'm not willing to put him on 99

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Out of my league, but even I got this far.

[AceHiStation]

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I'm not willing to put him on 99

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Out of my league, but even I got this far.

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Thank you for your great contribution to this thread.

[LearnedfromTV]

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I'm not willing to put him on 99

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Out of my league, but even I got this far.

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Thank you for your great contribution to this thread.

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You're welcome. Just a joke.

Since you asked, my 'opinion' on the hand in the form of a couple questions:

1. With the flush and paired board, is the button really going to pot value bet a worse 9? What does he expect to call?

2. Why not a river blocking bet of about 2K. Enough to freeze a worse 9 into a call and safely fold to raise?

Edit: These really are questions. Like I said, I'm out of my league. At 2/4 or 3/6 if I check called turn I would block bet river. With a 150BB in a limped pot, most of the time I would check call turn rather than check raise (allin or otherwise).

[Lucky]

As you played it, i definitely fold river against most players.

I probably would have led the turn for maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of pot, seemingly asking for a call on made flush.