Dubious Full House 5/10 NL

[kagame]

yeah, what would you put Villain on though? just a Q?

[xorbie]

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yeah, what would you put Villain on though? just a Q?

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TT seems possible, if he is afraid of getting 3-bet on the turn when the BB leads out and with so many players in the flop. JJ I suppose is possible, but I can't imagine not leading the flop.

[fsuplayer]

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Have to bet that flop. A flop c/r lets people off too easy.

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[ggbman]

I think the range of hands we are giving UTG+1 is way to small. Without a strong read to the conrary, it's very possible that he open limped 89s or k9s. He could have been getting tricky on the turn figuring to pop about any river since no one has shown much strength here, and it's hard to put someone on queens up given the action. Additionally, the two hands that beat you almost never play their hands like this, and thus i think a re-raise is in order.

[Dr. StrangeloveX]

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there are definitely people that open limp JJ TT AKo in EP at a full table.
Is this common or an anomaly? These were the first 3 hands i discounted from villains range.

[/ QUOTE ]pretty common... at least 50/50 in internet 5/10.
dont worry, i think its pathetic.

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JJ and TT have too much set value to raise in early position with 100bb stacks imo. I'd much rather limp in, call the raise and play poker than open and get raised by AA/KK/AK and not have odds to flop a set.

And I'd rather people think I'm weaker than I am than stronger when my hand has real showdown value.

[creedofhubris]

The online minraise is something that should strike fear into your heart, but you have a killer hand here, so I would be willing to put my stack in. You're ahead of several boats and a couple straights.

It would take a really bad villain to check QJ or QT. I think it's 555QQ or JJJQQ, or maybe a straight.

[Rotating Rabbit]

I constantly have problems akin to this - where I have a strong hand and from the way I've read the betting I cant see villian having any hands that will call any more bets from me. Correct game is to play for villian to make an -ev mistake, so you have to offer him that extra mistake opportunity on the end, offer him a chance to be a fish - its easy to fall into the trap of giving villian credit for thinking correctly, but in situations where'd you puke to a reraise push its difficult to pull the trigger.

[fimbulwinter]

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Flop: ($45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.


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why no bet?

fim

[kagame]

essentially, game a little too big for my stomach (600NL player), have been going monster under nut hand a few too many times lately for my sanity

definitely correct about leading the flop, and reraising the river

i gulped, he had AKh for the straight my hand was good

stack him for sure here cuz these guys dont lay down anything

[kagame]

btw check out a Qh on the river

yikes!