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Old 03-09-2005, 03:41 AM
lightw1thoutheat lightw1thoutheat is offline
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Default OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

party 2/4 today that confused me a bit
how aggressive should i be here on the turn and river?
i think that leading the river and calling a raise is a safe play in retrospect, but i'd like to get some other opinions.


Button is 44/0, UTG is 52/11

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (21 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 24 BB

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Old 03-09-2005, 03:43 AM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

Seems fine to me.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

i'd bet the river and call a raise. only KQ takes it... although he's definitely passive enough for it, he's loose enough to have a number of other holdings...

if you had some preflop stats that had him essentially never raising i don't know i'd advocate the same river play... but i might...
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

check/callign the river is fine. it should be fairly obvious you're goign to chop at best and you're going to get scooped by KQ.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:18 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

bet-calling the river aint' that hot. its fairly obvious that hero is chopping at best and getting scooped some of hte time as well. its not worth the extra bet.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

word up. i need to stop posting after 3. maybe after 2. i can actually feel my brain rotting.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

After the passive dude caps the flop and raises the turn would anyone else call down unless they hit the flush? He sure played it like he had kq.
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

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After the passive dude caps the flop and raises the turn would anyone else call down unless they hit the flush? He sure played it like he had kq.

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He has the 9 flush outs plus 3 chop outs if he is behind which makes the turn action good by me..opinions?? If it was just a one card str8 situation I'd be playing a bit more passive...opinions??
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:26 PM
lightw1thoutheat lightw1thoutheat is offline
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Default Re: OESD and Flush draw on flop from SB

thanks guys for all the advice

luckiy i caught Button way overplaying Ks7s, and the other guy playing 89o.

i was so surprised to take down the pot.
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