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Missing completely
Probably the biggest area I'm struggling at right now is when I raise with Ace + good kicker and miss the board. Example below:
Button's stats are something like 32/3 with very low flop aggression and very high river aggression. Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: (5.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. Turn: (3.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. River: (5.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 7.75 BB Especially when I have a read that my opponent has an astronomical river aggression stat, this is the line I seem to end up taking, and I absolutely hate calling that river bet. Is this standard for all of you regular and profitable players? |
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Re: Missing completely (example 2)
MP is loose passive preflop, but no other notes.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls. Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero... Final Pot: 4.75 BB |
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Re: Missing completely (example 2)
I usually just fold this.
On the first one you posted, sometimes I don't bet the turn... depends on my read. And I usually don't call the river unless I'm against a total donk. If I know they'll bet the river when checked to, I mark 'em down for a future checkraise. Don't listen to me, though, I got crushed with AKo this month. |
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Re: Missing completely
On this particular board, I'm check-folding the turn because I'm going to get raised out of this hand a lot. There isn't much value in Ace-high on this board.
If I somehow made it to the river, I'd check-call like you did. |
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Re: Missing completely (example 2)
Folding is my default play in the AT hand.
Please post hands in separate threads, or things become confusing for us simpletons. |
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Re: Missing completely (example 2)
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Please post hands in separate threads, or things become confusing for us simpletons. [/ QUOTE ] Just trying not to load up the board with threads of me... I'd argue that's worse. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: Missing completely
I'd bet the turn here but checkfolding the river is far better than any other action. High river agression really means the player draws a lot then either folds or bets on the river (he hits or he doesn't).
-SmileyEH |
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Re: Missing completely
Hand 1 -- I agree with Jeff, check-fold turn. You pick up a gutter, but only have one overcard and no heart. Small pot, let it go.
Hand 2 -- Raise or fold on turn depending on read. You say he's passive, so I'd fold. |
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Re: Missing completely (example 2)
Be free and spam.
I prefer many clear threads to one confusing thread. |
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Re: Missing completely (example 2)
On the first, I don't especially mind the turn bet. You'll often get a fold, and if you get called and are behind, you've got at least a couple outs. The river is a clear fold, however.
On the second, easy fold. At best I think you're drawing to 6 outs, more likely 3, in a small pot. And I definitely second splitting these hands into different threads. If you put 3-4 hands in a thread, I most likely will have comments on 1 of the hands, but not the others, and won't feel like just posting on the one. I'm lazy like that. |
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