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Old 12-21-2005, 11:29 AM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 AK hand

with no reads I bet the turn every time. We def. don't hate it and at 3/6 everyone amd their mother peels the flop.

That being said, if i bet and he raised the turn, I check/call the river.

If he called turn and raised the river, I guess I fold but that depends on how many keyboards I had broke earlier that day.
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 AK hand

This turn seems like a pretty easy check with outs situation. For the people that like betting do we really have that much FE with a pre flop cold caller and a board like this?
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:43 AM
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This turn seems like a pretty easy check with outs situation. For the people that like betting do we really have that much FE with a pre flop cold caller and a board like this?

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this is what I was wondering. I was seriously 50/50 between checking and betting.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 AK hand

With no reads, you're hoping he isnt a bluffer and hasn't just made you fold to his JT(or very aggressive).

However, Vs a solid tag this line is perfecto.

Why?
AJ will raise we fold the worst hand.
Jacks+other crap won't have raised so we make $ from value bet.
Flushes will raise - We fold losing hand.

Win when ahead, Fold when behind.

JT's will call this normally so they call with losing hand... Ahh its just such a sexy line, it really is [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

Only problem here clayton, is you've no read... So you better hope he isn't raising as a bluff or being super aggressive with Jx. I doubt he is... So its perfecto.

Nice hand.

Edit: Oh the turn check is an easy check IMO, Hardly any FE vs two guys on this board and paying two to see the river with our draw really does blow.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 AK hand

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This turn seems like a pretty easy check with outs situation. For the people that like betting do we really have that much FE with a pre flop cold caller and a board like this?

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this is what I was wondering. I was seriously 50/50 between checking and betting.

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I think our fold equity is pretty poor against 2 players on a drawy board. I like the check.

I'd pay off the river raise though; AQ and "I don't believe you have an ace so I'm going to raise my jack" are both possible after you check the turn IMO.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:20 PM
Delphin Delphin is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 AK hand

Flop: bet/call, continuation bet with two overs with a gutshot and a bdfd

Turn: bet/call, just picked up the nut flush draw

River: check/call, don't let AJ/AT/KQ get two bets from you, but you'll probably win a bet from AQ/KJ and you might induce a bluff from a worse hand
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:57 PM
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Hey where are the reads, buddy christ? I think I bet call this turn because we know nothing about button- which means he might have cc w/ low PP, A2s, etc. We also have the nutflush draw, gutshot and 2 overs- more than enough to make sure one bet goes on, call a raise, and try to steal the pot without hitting. On the river getting 11:1 I'd call and see what our boy is playing- then on your next hand you can say something like 'called pf w/ 44 and slowplayed flop'. Plus I honestly think we're good 1 in 12 vs an unknown.
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Old 12-22-2005, 01:19 AM
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I'd call the river for the reason Redd mentioned in addition to that you have the top [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] which makes it somewhat less likely that he has a flush. Also CC'ers are generally bad players.
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