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Old 12-19-2005, 07:46 PM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Hands like these always look really stupid. Most of them are stupid. Some of them are okay. In order for this to actually work, you need BB to fold his QJ, KJ, QQ, KK. Maybe. You also need CO to be on a weaker J/flush draw. Maybe. But you also have a couple outs worth of pot equity. And the pot is massive.

With reads I think this can be okay. It really hinges on BB being capable of laying down. There are a ton of players who are calling KJ down in this spot. CO doesn't worry me much.

Krishan

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This was my line of thinking.

I really thought I could get BB to fold one of those hands a decent amount of the time. Apperently you guys dont think so, and based on his calldown with KJ I guess you guys are right [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:29 PM
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I did this exact same thing lastnight......except it wasnt with poker chips, and it ended up all over her ta ta's
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:05 PM
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usually when the title contains the word "bluff" the poster does not think they were ahead.

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Yes, this is true, and from now on I intend to start reading the titles.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:47 PM
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I did this exact same thing lastnight......except it wasnt with poker chips, and it ended up all over her ta ta's

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hahahahaha
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:18 AM
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definately think this is spewage and you are gonna lose this hand without a river miracle. i'd check/fold the turn fo sho.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:41 AM
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I lol'ed
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:20 AM
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You need to have stats on BB that say his WtSD is like 29 to make this work for you.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:38 AM
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I'm late, but no. Just no. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:00 AM
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so this is what causes those big downswings?
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:36 AM
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As a changeup, I think it has merit. You may well fold KK / QQ in the BB and get it heads up with a weaker hand / draw, which would be a huge gain. You are going to call anyways, may as well throw in the extra BB and really throw a monkey wrench into this hand.

Any hand worth a call is conceivably worth a raise...

I don't know about your plan to fire any river though. If the BB doesn't give up and you see the river 3-ways, that is a real desperation play to fire again.

good luck.
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