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Old 12-19-2005, 04:42 PM
fyodor fyodor is offline
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Default Re: 60 in 60 days 3,4 and 4.5

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I have QxTs in the BB, a tagish player raises from a steal spot,
i c/c the flop and the turn and on the river the board ends up something like 8sJs4s6x2s, or something of that sort, i donk and he raises, i know i am beat and i call, i think i need to fold there. well hmm when it happened i thought wow this is a fold for sure god you suck, now reviewing it i am not sure i likea fold as i think, what do you all think?


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I don't think a hand you beat raises here often enough to make the call profitable. If I counted right you are getting 8:1. Of course it is player dependent but I would generally want 12:1 or better.

Are my numbers too tight?
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:31 PM
Danielih Danielih is offline
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Default Re: 60 in 60 days 3,4 and 4.5

You just gotta play tighter man. You gotta call down less. People arent bluffing that much. This results in you folding the best hand sometimes, and that's alright.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:36 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: 60 in 60 days 3,4 and 4.5

A lot of what you say is good and interesting, but it's really hard to read without paragraphs and/or punctuation.

Thanks for the updates anyway.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:30 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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Default Re: 60 in 60 days 3,4 and 4.5

Good post Dave I'm glad you're keeping a positive attitude.

For the QT hand, in those situations I think it's actually useful to figure out whether to value bet based on the way the opponent has called the flop and turn. Sometimes the timing of their call just makes it seem very likely that they have an ace, while other times you feel like you have an easy value bet. Am I making sense?
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