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#41
12-06-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
Here it is:
[ QUOTE ] What approximate win rate (after a significant # of hands of course) do you think should one should have at NL25 before making the move to NL50? [/ QUOTE ] FIMBULWINTER'S RESPONSE: first off you should never view it as a quantum leap kinda thing. just take little shots when you feel comfortable, have the money and are good enough. here's a hand waving yardstick: try 50NL when: - you're confident in your preflop game - you understand position - you have a good idea of their hand by the river - you have an ok feel when to continuation bet - you have 500 or more 100NL when: - you're confident playing draws - you can spot good semibluff opportunities - you can lay down AA/KK unimproved - you're attacking the blinds in easy steal situations - you have 1200+ 200NL when: - you're ok betting your stack on a draw - a PFR from you doesnt always mean AA-JJ and AQs+ - you're starting to play one hand while holding another - you have more than one mode - you have 3000 or more 400NL when: - you can ID profitable preflop steals - you know how to pick between b3b and c/r - position factors heavily into your play - you're good at manipulating pot size - you have 6000+ 1K NL when - your lines don't define your hand - you're good at playing and winning lots of small pots - your oop opponent must hold a strong hand to win a pot from you - you understand the real math of the game at least at a basal level 4_2_it will never be able to play at this level [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] - you have 20000+ fim 
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#42
12-06-2005, 05:33 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
Don't feel bad: I have no idea what a "basal level" is and I've played 5/10 just fine.
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#43
12-06-2005, 06:24 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
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Don't feel bad: I have no idea what a "basal level" is and I've played 5/10 just fine. [/ QUOTE ] You're not being sarcastic, are you? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#44
12-06-2005, 06:26 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
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[ QUOTE ] Don't feel bad: I have no idea what a "basal level" is and I've played 5/10 just fine. [/ QUOTE ] You're not being sarcastic, are you? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] i found it hard to come up with anything decent on google [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#46
12-06-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
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I have almost exactly the same problem. I beat the 25NL tables easily. But the 50NL tables are significantly tighter . I was really glad to read this post - I thought I was the only one with this problem. [/ QUOTE ] If anyone can explain how I seem to be the only person who does better at 50NL rather than 25NL - without using the handy phrases "small sample size" or "variance is a [insert preferred expletive]" I'm all ears.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] to pick up on another point... "winning style of play at 25NL is a losing style at higher limits" is this correct? and if so - what are the main adjustments you need to make to your game to be a success at either level? aoplogies if I am being really stupid and not seeing the blatantly obvious here..
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#47
12-06-2005, 06:50 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
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"winning style of play at 25NL is a losing style at higher limits" is this correct? [/ QUOTE ] This is not correct. I think if you play EXACTLY the same way you play at NL25 to beat it for, say, 10PTBB/100, you would beat NL1K for at least ~3PTBB/100. TAG style is CERTAINLY not losing play at 5/10. Did you guys not see my post where he called a bet/3-bet all-in with bottom pair no draw on a mono flop vs a preflop raiser? And that was a WINNING 5/10 PLAYER!
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#48
12-06-2005, 07:03 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
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Did you guys not see my post where he called a bet/3-bet all-in with bottom pair no draw on a mono flop vs a preflop raiser? And that was a WINNING 5/10 PLAYER! [/ QUOTE ] Musta put you on a pure bluff
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#49
12-06-2005, 07:52 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
He's behind even a pure bluff.
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#50
12-06-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: Moving from $25 to $50, is it worth it?
You mentioned that you play on PokerRoom. I've played a decent amount on there and I've found their $50 NL to be among the hardest on the net. I actually found the $100NL to be easier, but I only played a couple thousand hands of it. My advice to you would be to take a shot at $100NL but only play one table and make sure you can can concentrate fully on it. Take plenty of player notes and try to get a feel for how everyone plays and practice your hand-reading skills. Try to err on the side of playing weak-tight until you start to get a feel for the differences at this level; this should help you from losing a lot of money.
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