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Old 10-26-2005, 08:17 PM
Eric Draven Eric Draven is offline
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Default Pokerstars $16 Turbo, AK Hits, Now What?

Early, no reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Hero (t1500)
Button (t1490)
SB (t3010)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t100.

Flop: (t390) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t360</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1380</font>, Hero ???

It's reall hard for me to fold this, but I just got a feeling he has AA, KK, or QQ... It's still early, I got plenty of chips (Stars 1500 stacks), but AK on a K high board? Any chance of laying this down? Even think of it?
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Old 10-26-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars $16 Turbo, AK Hits, Now What?

Preflop is too loose. At this stage, easy fold postflop.
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Old 10-26-2005, 08:58 PM
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i fold this flop.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:59 PM
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I mumble and fold on the flop, even though the villain might have AK also, because you're virtually dead against anything else he makes this move with (AA, KK, QQ, KQ). Plus who knows what the other guy has. In a Party tourney you might have to call, but w/ the Stars stacks, you can get it in a better spot later.
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Old 10-26-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars $16 Turbo, AK Hits, Now What?

This should not be a hard fold for you. You need to emotionally disconnect yourself from AK.
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Old 10-26-2005, 10:43 PM
Eric Draven Eric Draven is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars $16 Turbo, AK Hits, Now What?

It was hard, but I DID fold.

UTG called all-in. MP1 flipped over AK, UTG flipped A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and made a straight on the river.

I was afraid I was being result oriented, and I should have called, I'm glad to see I made the correct decision
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Old 10-27-2005, 03:45 AM
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I'd lay it down, UTG bets into what he is entitled to expect to be a reraise from preflop raiser (so imo he either has KQ and has hit 2 pair or has hit the 4 flush and is willing to play all-in to hit). The reraise then comes and you have to figure that UTG will call and at best you can be chopping the hand with the original raiser or losing to a made hand from UTG. I couldn't call all-in if I thought my best outcome was a split but that's my weak tight excuse [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

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Old 10-27-2005, 03:47 AM
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Ah, ok so it wasn't the made 2 pair but was the flush draw, I didn't obviously read your reply before responding to original. Nice laydown

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Old 10-27-2005, 04:37 AM
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You fold AK preflop with that action? I'm pretty tight preflop in early stages, but not THAT tight.

And I think that's a flop fold.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:58 AM
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Easy fold on the flop. Villain has AA/KK/QQ/AK/KQ here, and you don't wanna risk this much for a best case scenario of a split. Ok he might have A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], once in a while as well. But still an easy fold. Preflop is good. People make that raise with way too many hand to not call preflop, to whoever suggested folding preflop.
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