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Old 09-01-2005, 05:44 PM
chief444 chief444 is offline
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Default Re: i\'m a lag?

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Your Point being?

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That I value bet AK against this opponent on a TT64 board 100% of the time. I don't think the turn is close whatsoever.
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: i\'m a lag?

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If he checks it down it's usually because AK is good.

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Your Point being?

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He calls with a weaker ace or folds a small pp? He doesn't get to see what you had and is scared of you in the future?
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:46 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: i\'m a lag?

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Your Point being?

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That I value bet AK against this opponent on a TT64 board 100% of the time. I don't think the turn is close whatsoever.

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Chief is right.

People need to start value-betting AK on the turn MORE and on the river LESS.

You are MUCH more likely to get a call on the turn from an inferior hand than on the river. There is also the protection factor; AK is a hand with showdown value and giving opponents free cards to make pairs really sucks.
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Old 09-01-2005, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: i\'m a lag?

Thanks for the responses. I don't know who to believe. My analysis might (now) be that he could have a some pocket pairs, the odd overcard combination, some flushdraws with other hands less likely. Maybe should try doing sums, and maybe it's close but probably good 1/6.75 so, without reads on river betting patterns, bet as TOP says and fold to the raise(even w/o reads). so maybe i believed the chief.

Villain had Q3(+ flush draw). Nice.
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Old 09-01-2005, 06:26 PM
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sorry,
is Deranged right?
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Old 09-01-2005, 06:28 PM
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yes
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Old 09-01-2005, 06:31 PM
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52/0/.3 says a lot even after 50 hands. Betting the river is fine IMO. This guy could have any two cards, but I think he pays you off with a worse A enough.

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That plus if he beats you you're encouraging him to call you down next time and next time and next time.
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