Value bet?

Spicymoose · #1 12-05-2005, 12:11 PM

Villains are both pretty agressive.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, MP calls, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.33 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (11.33 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks...

Lmn55d · #2 12-05-2005, 12:13 PM

seems standard to me so far

surfdoc · #3 12-05-2005, 12:19 PM

I think the likelihood of you getting a worse hand to call has got to be lower than the combined likelihood of getting called by a better hand plus raised by a worse hand plus raised by a better hand.

surfdoc · #4 12-05-2005, 12:20 PM

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seems standard to me so far

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Standard to value bet or standard the way he played it?

Lmn55d · #5 12-05-2005, 12:23 PM

standard check. You are better off checking because you save bets when it goes bet/call or bet/fold before you. You also avoid getting bluffraised and can induce a bluff. Additionally the scariness of the board makes it less likely that a worse hand calls. Also lots of possible hands containing a T.

joseki · #6 12-05-2005, 12:24 PM

Do you ever check that turn? You might be ahead, but if not most of your outs are tainted by flush draws and reverse domination. I also get the feeling that you have little/no fold equity here.

You're not thinking of betting the river are you?

surfdoc · #7 12-05-2005, 12:25 PM

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standard check. You are better off checking because you save bets when it goes bet/call or bet/fold before you. You also avoid getting bluffraised. Additionally the scariness of the board makes it less likely that a worse hand calls. Also lots of possible hands containing a T.

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awesome. so we agree.

Spicymoose · #8 12-05-2005, 12:27 PM

Does your answer change if the river is the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

#9 12-05-2005, 03:19 PM

I can't say I've every value bet ace high 3 handed.

Spicymoose · #10 12-05-2005, 04:01 PM

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I can't say I've every value bet ace high 3 handed.

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Me either. In fact, I have never even valuebet A high HU. That is the main reason for this post. It seems like if someone was on a flush draw or had a PP, they would have raised me before the river. I also think AQ, and AJ cant help but call occasionally in this decent sized pot. I also highly doubt I am getting bluffed out here.