Another boring third pair hand.

Redd · #1 09-20-2005, 08:33 PM

I'm posting this one because we don't see many examples of hands like this around here, so I have very little validation whether it's correct or incorrect. Does anybody find a bet on the flop here? Raise pf? Fold pf? Semi-bluff turn? Anything?

The two guys that folded with me are a 33ish vpip calling-station type and a guy on the weak-tight side of TAG. El bettor de rio is an unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 5 folds, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (2.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 3.25 BB

MrWookie47 · #2 09-20-2005, 08:34 PM

I don't think you can bet the turn since you have so many outs, but I think you can call that river and snap off a bluff a little over 25% of the time.

gharp · #3 09-20-2005, 08:35 PM

I'm gonna go with "raise preflop" on this one. Since you didn't, I'd bet the flop when it's checked to me.

Redd · #4 09-20-2005, 08:36 PM

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I don't think you can bet the turn since you have so many outs, but I think you can call that river and snap off a bluff a little over 25% of the time.

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Think so? I actually hadn't really considered it because if I could beat him it would mean he was stone-cold bluffing into 3 people.

CourtJester · #5 09-20-2005, 08:40 PM

The pot is to small to get really tricky, the only time i think a bet is in order is on the turn, but even then, i dont see you taking this down often enough if you dont hit your draw, and i think you're getting at least 2 to the river w/ you, so i think it was fine the way u played it.

WildDan · #6 09-20-2005, 08:40 PM

If I were river better, I could have A high. I'd figure any hand that's paired by now would have bet, and because of that the second K is a complete blank. I could also see a 6 betting the river. I like calling that to pick up the bluff bet.

But I like being much more aggressive earlier on. I'm betting the flop when it's checked to me and semi-bluffing/representing the K. The turn I bet again, because I'm now semi-bluffing with many more outs (picked up OESD) but quite possibly I'm laying down to a check-raise (flush out on board).

Redd · #7 09-20-2005, 08:41 PM

Haha so far we have four people with four differing opinions on four different streets. Perhaps it is good that we see hands like this every once in a while [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Jarcon · #8 09-20-2005, 08:55 PM

I would raise PF, bet flop...if called then I think I have to let it go if someone bets.

The way you played, I think you should call river.

bozlax · #9 09-20-2005, 09:10 PM

Two loose players that you've got position on limp in, and you just call with a pocket pair. Rizzle-dizzle that shizzle, beyotch!

Then bet the flop, and turn when it's checked to you, if you haven't won already.

Redd · #10 09-20-2005, 09:15 PM

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Two loose players that you've got position on limp in, and you just call with a pocket pair. Rizzle-dizzle that shizzle, beyotch!

Then bet the flop, and turn when it's checked to you, if you haven't won already.

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Yeah, I do agree this should have been a pfr. I had been raising a little light in this session and people were starting to play back, so I decided I'd try limping. I don't really like where it ended up.