Awfull Hands From Tonight

kamjah · #1 03-20-2005, 06:00 AM

Heres the hands from tonight where i lost most of my money tonight. Tell me if and where i made mistakes.

Hand 1:

I know i should have just folded preflop, but frankly, i don't respect minraises.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Hero ($52.45)
UTG ($20)
MP ($23.95)
Button ($21.75)
SB ($51.5)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, SB folds.

Turn: ($7) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6.65, Hero raises to $13.3, Hero calls $5.45.

River: ($32.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $32.40

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd 3d (flush, king high).
Button has 8s Jd (full house, eights full of jacks).
Outcome: Button wins $32.40. 

Hand 2:

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Hero ($28.7)
UTG ($19.5)
MP ($39.4)
CO ($36.25)
Button ($17.75)
SB ($43.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB (poster) raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $7.5, UTG folds, SB raises to $12, Hero is all-in 20.7, SB calls $14.70.

Flop: ($37.20) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: ($37.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($37.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $37.20

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ks Kh (two pair, kings and sevens).
SB has Qs As (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: SB wins $37.20. 

Hand 3:

Theres no possible way i an call this, right?

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Hero ($39.85)
SB ($113.65)
BB ($18.05)
UTG ($26.2)
MP ($29.75)
CO ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $6, Hero raises to $18, CO calls $12.

Turn: ($41.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO is All-In [30.25], Hero folds.

Final Pot: $41.75

Results in white below: 
No showdown. CO wins $41.75. 

Hand 4:
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Hero ($22.05)
BB ($122.5)
UTG ($16.05)
MP ($25.1)
CO ($24.75)
Button ($64.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero Bets $2, UTG calls $2, MP raises to $10, Hero raises to $8, UTG is all-in $13.55, MP is all-in $14.6, Hero is all-in $3.55
Turn: ($62.20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)

River: ($62.20) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)

Final Pot: $62.20

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kc Jh (straight, king high).
BB doesn't show.
UTG has Qd 9d (full house, nines full of queens).
MP has Js Jd (two pair, jacks and nines).
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG wins $47.15. Hero wins $12 from the side pot, MP wins $3.05 from the side pot

Hand 5:

Im sooo confused as to why UTG stays in this hand, and re-raises nonetheless...

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Hero ($6.5)
UTG ($96.65)
MP ($7.37)
CO ($47.25)
Button ($29.2)
SB ($57.43)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $4, CO calls $4, Button raises to $6, SB folds, UTG raises to $8, CO folds, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($24.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Button bets $5, UTG calls $5.

River: ($34.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets $5, Button calls $5.

Final Pot: $44.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd Tc (two pair, tens and sixes).
UTG has 6c Ad (three of a kind, sixes).
Button has 5s Ts (two pair, tens and sixes).
Outcome: UTG wins $44.50. 

Even if it seems like im just venting, i actually would like feedback on these hands. If theres anywhere i made a huge error plz let me know. That being said..... tonight sucked.

RiverTheNuts · #2 03-20-2005, 06:35 AM

Your mistake was posting bad beats, they all look fine

Wayfare · #3 03-20-2005, 12:37 PM

You played all these hands well, and they amount to bad beats. It would be nice if you posted mistakes as well!

kamjah · #4 03-20-2005, 02:24 PM

After sleeping on it, and reading this over, im sorry i posted these bad beats. But last night when i was making this post, I just went through my hand history, and looked for large downward fluctuations in my stack. And these are what i came up with. Does that mean im getting better and i was just struck with a streak of bad luck? If so.... i owe it all to you guys here at 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

On a a side note. This question may seem stupid or trivial, but ive allways wanted a solid answer. Do winning players have days when they just can't come up? Like the winners that know this game like the back of thier hand, and have trained themselves not to tilt. On a full session of making all the right moves and reads, what are the odds that a player like this ends up losing big?

Wayfare · #5 03-20-2005, 02:27 PM

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After sleeping on it, and reading this over, im sorry i posted these bad beats. But last night when i was making this post, I just went through my hand history, and looked for large downward fluctuations in my stack. And these are what i came up with. Does that mean im getting better and i was just struck with a streak of bad luck? If so.... i owe it all to you guys here at 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

On a a side note. This question may seem stupid or trivial, but ive allways wanted a solid answer. Do winning players have days when they just can't come up? Like the winners that know this game like the back of thier hand, and have trained themselves not to tilt. On a full session of making all the right moves and reads, what are the odds that a player like this ends up losing big?

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Yes, bad streaks are inevitable. I lost about 5 buy-ins at the 50xbb structure somewhat recently, something that has never happened before. Probably 3 were due to bad beats and 2 were due to bad play / tilting. Smart players identify when they start to be affected by not winning money, and stop playing.

As to the point of percentages of winning / losing, this entirely depends on your winrate and standard deviation. My variance is more than four times my winrate, which means that I am often up or down fairly big. What really matters is a positive drift over the long term.