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Re: Conditional Suffrage?
On the whole, I think the ignorant and easily manipulated should cancel each other out.
On the other hand, I don't believe in voting online or in having more than one day to vote |
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Re: Conditional Suffrage?
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On the whole, I think the ignorant and easily manipulated should cancel each other out. [/ QUOTE ] The two terms are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they are often partners in crime. [ QUOTE ] On the other hand, I don't believe in voting online [/ QUOTE ] I believe in voting online, and I believe that technology already exists to make it as legitimate as ballot voting. [ QUOTE ] or in having more than one day to vote [/ QUOTE ] Nor do I. However, I don't believe in that day being Tuesday. Worst idea ever. Unless all employers could universally be forced to allow employees to go vote during business hours and pay them for the time they are out..... which would replace the idea of voting on Tuesdays to being the worst idea ever. |
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Re: Conditional Suffrage?
Unless all employers could universally be forced to allow employees to go vote during business hours and pay them for the time they are out..
First of all, it's against the law in all States to take any disciplinary action against employees who take time off from work to vote. Second, polls are open in most states from 7 AM - 8 PM. I would suggest that only a miniscule percentage of the electorate needs to miss more than an hour or two of work to vote. I don't agree with forcing employers to pay for the missed time. |
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First of all, it's against the law in all States to take any disciplinary action against employees who take time off from work to vote. [/ QUOTE ] Disciplinary, no, but those who need to punch a time clock won't be paid for the time they missed. [ QUOTE ] Second, polls are open in most states from 7 AM - 8 PM. I would suggest that only a miniscule percentage of the electorate needs to miss more than an hour or two of work to vote. [/ QUOTE ] When you're living paycheck to paycheck, an hour or two of work is significant. [ QUOTE ] I don't agree with forcing employers to pay for the missed time. [/ QUOTE ] Nor do I... that's the only way having election day be on a day when 99% of the working population works would make sense, though. Better to just change the day. But let's not get off topic.... we're talking about restricting the right to vote of otherwise eligible voters. |
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First of all, it's against the law in all States to take any disciplinary action against employees who take time off from work to vote. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see a cite on that. My understanding is that only about 20 states actually have such laws, and that the time allowed is not necessarily sufficient to cover the actual time needed to stand in line and cast a vote (ie: Ohio 2004). q/q |
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Re: Conditional Suffrage?
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[ QUOTE ] First of all, it's against the law in all States to take any disciplinary action against employees who take time off from work to vote. [/ QUOTE ] I'd like to see a cite on that. My understanding is that only about 20 states actually have such laws, and that the time allowed is not necessarily sufficient to cover the actual time needed to stand in line and cast a vote (ie: Ohio 2004). [/ QUOTE ] This is correct. There is no uniform federal law regarding this. I believe the number of states that have laws requiring employers to give time off is closer to 30, but as you point out, some of them don't require very much. Part of the reason that there is no uniform federal law about this is that there is no uniform federal election. |
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Re: Conditional Suffrage?
I support this:
Ban anybody who is a member of a religious organisation that was created for the purpose of maintaining human slavery from voting. |
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