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Old 11-30-2005, 04:17 PM
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Hey everyone....can somebody explain to me what it is that I'm missing about Rakeback. Every other post I read people seem to talk like Rakeback changed their (poker) life. And I don't understand why. Let me explain what I am doing right now and if anybody could explain to me what I'm missing, that would be great.

Right now I am playing the 6 person $35-3 SNG tables at Bodog. I will use my November numbers as the reason why I just don't get it.......in the month of November I played 102 tournaments....and I made almost $2,300 this month (my best month yet) playing in my SNG's. Now I gave Bodog $3 for each tournament so that's $306 (102 tournee's X $3) each. From what I have read about Rakeback, it looks like getting 25% back is pretty common.....so in November if I did rakeback (which I don't think I can get through Bodog), I would have gotten another $76.50 ($306 X 25%) back. Now with $2,300 profit, I don't see how $76.50 is such a big deal. Now, I don't think I will always run this good as my ROI in November was over 60% and I understand it will go down and hence my profits will go down and hence my RakeBack % to profit ratio will normally be higher than this month, but I still don't get it. Every single person seems to think that Rakeback is just HUGE for them and I'm sure they're not crazy....so somebody....please tell me what I'm missing because I don't see why RakeBack is such a big deal.

Thanks ahead of time for your answers
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:31 PM
StacysMom StacysMom is offline
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Default Re: Rakeback (am I missing something)

First of all, 76 dollars isnt chump change. Second, RB is generally less significant for tuarnament players. For cash game players it can be a few thousand dollars/month, which may be up to half of their income.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:37 PM
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Rakeback is good for anyone because it is essentially free money. You ran incredibly well and when you have a downswing you'll praise the rakeback that you receive. Also, 100 SnGs in an entire month is quite low, a serious player would complete around 1000 of those and receive around $750, which is a fair chunk of change.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:51 PM
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Rakeback is good for anyone because it is essentially free money. You ran incredibly well and when you have a downswing you'll praise the rakeback that you receive. Also, 100 SnGs in an entire month is quite low, a serious player would complete around 1000 of those and receive around $750, which is a fair chunk of change.

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this is right on the money. Ring/Cash players earn more RB because more rake is taken while they play. Sites that offer RB based on the $taken/#players at table * RB% method are wonderful for TAG players who sit and watch 80% of the hands and don't win a lot of pots.

RB >1,000 isn't a stretch for a lot of the folks around here.

FishNChips
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:58 PM
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Many people here pay a lot more in rake than you do. In my break even months I make $600 in RB which puts a decent size dent in my nut. Rakeback keeps the sharks away from sites like Bodog but I just got RB there so the 35+3's will be a little tougher this month. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Old 11-30-2005, 05:56 PM
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I'll take your $75 if you don't care about it. Heck almost $1000 a year. Wouldn't you rather I had it(total fish) to lose than the poker sites having it?

Also, this is an open invitation to all players who don't want rake back. I will take it if you don't see the point to it.
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:42 PM
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hhhhhmmm...
many of us generate $5000 plus a month in rake...ring games are a different beast
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Old 12-02-2005, 10:51 PM
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I'm getting $1,300 in rakeback at one site alone last month. And I play actively at probably 4 sites.
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Old 12-03-2005, 06:12 AM
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hahaha, 64% ROI? Don't worry, your profit before rakeback will drop with time...a lot
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:10 AM
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Is it impossible to post something on this site without having your ROI attacked....or your sample size attacked?? My question had nothing at all to do with my ROI for November....nor was I asking if my profit will go down. I was simply using my November numbers as an example of why I didn't understand something.

To those who gave me a legitimate answer to my rakeback question...thank-you....I better understand what was confusing me before and I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.....to those who are in some sort of crazy pissing contest where they always need to critique somebody's ROI #'s and tell them they are not a good player and that their numbers will go down, variance will bite them in the @ss, etc, etc, etc....I don't understand what your problem is.
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