interesting 5&5 hand against maniac

[Ulysses]

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I would fold and wait for a better spot.

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I don't see how you fold top set here against a guy who it sounds like could easily have:

smaller set
straight
pair + draw
bluff
flush draw

I stick it all in there and hope he doesn't have a straight. As the player was described, I can't imagine not being a significant favorite to his range of hands.

[etizzle]

I assume this hand was played at foxwoods.

Who is the kid? I go to MIT and almost surely know him if he is currently enrolled.

[Lawrence Ng]

Hi Aggie, I have not read the results but here is my take.

The key point in this hand is that you are to maniac's right and by the time the action gets back to you.

Assuming everyone else folds on the flop - I will shove it all in against this maniac.

However, if there's even more raise upfront with other players - I will lay this down. You now not only have to fear contending with the maniac, but other players who know the maniac is crazy and obviously would not contend with him unless they are crazy too.

Lawrence

[FoxwoodsFiend]

I was at that session with Aggie and took a bus back to New Haven with villain. His name is Aditya and he is a grad student.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

Hey Aggie,
Like I was telling you at the time, I don't think there's anything you can do here. The only way you can conceivably avoid losing your stack is to smooth-call the 30, then villain will raise to less than a grand, you can re-raise without comitting yourself and if he comes over the top you can fold. Even that would be a stretch and probably end up being a bad fold in the long run, and that smooth-call is a mistake on that board with so many people behind. Basically, it sucks you have to put in that raise and then see significant action from villain. To anybody who is advocating folding to this guy, some more background is helpful-he was involved in a hand where he check-raised another deepstack from 2K to 8K on the turn on an A 5 6 7 board with 3 clubs. The guy called, then villain put his opponent all-in when the river blanked for another 10K or so. His opponent said call, and villain immediately mucked his cards before even seeing what his opponent held. YOU CANNOT fold to this man when you're drawing to a full house on the off chance you are actually behind.
It is rare that with deep stacks that you have to go to the felt with top set on a coordinated board, but this is one of those instances.

[radioheadfan]

Quick question:

What's the deal with the Foxwoods 5/5?

Is it no max buy-in with time charge? Rake?

What is the time charge or rake?

Sounds like a sweet game....

[FoxwoodsFiend]

No max buy-in, 6 dollars/half hour time charge. Can be really huge and profitable on the weekend.

[aggie]

Thanks, i came to pretty much the same conclusion. The main reason i posted this is because i kinda like your suggestion and wanted to see if anybody else suggested it...

Which line is better:
1. the line i took which maximizes protection for my hand
or...
2. Call the initial $30 bet from the guy on my right trying to play a smaller pot with this dangeous board? I think this strategy has a lot of merit because it should make the turn much easier to play.

[radioheadfan]

Hmmm. What's the median stack, around 1,000?

What's the largest you've ever seen? The $25K stack from the MIT kid seems ridiculous, how do you even bring that much cash?

I kinda like the idea of everyone playing at 5,000 big blinds though.

[LuvDemNutz]

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I would fold and wait for a better spot.

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I don't see how you fold top set here against a guy who it sounds like could easily have:

smaller set
straight
pair + draw
bluff
flush draw

I stick it all in there and hope he doesn't have a straight. As the player was described, I can't imagine not being a significant favorite to his range of hands.

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I'd do the same.