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Old 12-06-2005, 03:21 PM
aargh57 aargh57 is offline
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Default Re: 77 flops a set but it turn bad

I don't necessarily thinks that he is bluff raising 1 in 8 times. Couldn't he be raising close to this often with 2 pair here? In reading the comments I see that this is almost certainly the wrong play but just wanted to point out that my reasoning wasn't that he was bluff raising one in 8 times.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:55 PM
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Isn't this standard Clarkmeister, with the set and running into the problem of a four flush board on river. I think the bet-fold line works well. If you check, you do miss the value everytime he had Kx or any other middle pair, since he'll check through. But you will get people betting at you with their lone club which you would call.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:39 PM
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Easy raise preflop.

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Is this really an easy raise pre-flop? I think I've been checking it too. When I think about it, my guess is we probably do have an equity edge against two limpers, but it's probably thin. Do you guys raise 66 here too?
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 77 flops a set but it turn bad

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Easy raise preflop.

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Is this really an easy raise pre-flop? I think I've been checking it too. When I think about it, my guess is we probably do have an equity edge against two limpers, but it's probably thin. Do you guys raise 66 here too?

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I might raise 66, yeah. We are building a pot that we often can take down on the flop for a bet. We also have pretty strong equity.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: 77 flops a set but it turn bad

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Easy raise preflop.

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Is this really an easy raise pre-flop? I think I've been checking it too. When I think about it, my guess is we probably do have an equity edge against two limpers, but it's probably thin. Do you guys raise 66 here too?

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I might raise 66, yeah. We are building a pot that we often can take down on the flop for a bet. We also have pretty strong equity.

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Good luck with that. They don't fold the flop for one bet very often.

EDIT: I'm not disagreeing with the pfr.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:54 PM
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Grunch:

I think this is an easy river fold the way you played it. However, if you know you are going to fold to a raise on the river, check call might be better. I doubt he is calling a river bet without a club here, but you may be able to induce a bluff if you check the river.
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