3/6 nl hand, with a limit to their no limit?!?

[mc1023]

Ok I was playing some 3/6 nl at the casino here in vancouver, bc for some fun and had this interesting hand where I thought I should've made a move.

First here are the rules of the casino which affected my decision a lot. Its a 3/6 nl game with a $200 max buy-in but here's the rule that makes it a bit difficult game to play, there is a capp to how much you can bet, $500. So you can only bet $500 max at a time but it can also be raised $500 over and over again. This is a very strange rule indeed for a nl game but thats how it is here anyway to the hand.

I'm in Late position with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in a fairly loose game sitting with about $4200 behind me and I've pretty much got everyone covered. There's 4 limpers in front of me and both CO and button limp, small blind completes and big blind sitting with about $1100 raises to 30. Everybody except CO and small blind calls. So 7 players going into the flop with pot at $219.

Flop comes 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], its checked to me and I bet out $300 into the pot. Everyone folds except the big blind who check calls the $300 bet. Turn card is a K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], big blind thinks for a second then quickly checks to me. At this point I'm trying to figure out what this guy could be on and if If he's slowplaying a monster so I'm looking at this guy for some kind of read. We make eye contact for one second and I can clearly see he's scared of the K. Now here's the part I'm not sure if I played bad. I'm sitting behind with $3900 in chips at this point I have a very strong table image and big blind with about $800 in chips left is somewhat of a decent player able to laydown his hands. I have him on a pocket pair smaller then K (TT to QQ) and I think he was waiting to make a move on me on the turn but the K slowed him down. Now despite the fact that the max I can bet on the turn is $500 and the pot is now $819 should I have still kept the pressure on the big blind since I'm very confident that he can't beat the K.

The reason I chose not to was if he has a wired QQ or JJ he might call another $500 since there is only one overcard and the pot is $819 with him only having to call another $500 to see the river as opposed to his whole stack. Also I am still drawing for the hearts I'm not sure if I want to hit a J for two pair but I'm certain an 8 will definently help me so I can draw to the river for free if I check behind. The river was a blank and again it was checked to me by the big blind, and again I was faced with the decision to try and buy the pot, AND once again I was faced with this $500 max betting dilemna since I'm quite sure if I put him all in he would lay down his hand but with a $500 bet he might be likely to call since he's only calling $500 for $1319.

comments? I'm really not sure about this hand since in a situation where there is no capp to a bet in nl I would've put the guy all in on the turn if not definently the river after he shows that much weakness. Results in white below.

<font color="white">I checked behind on river and he showed JJ</font>

[italianstang]

Why did you bet $300 in to a large field with bottom pair and a crappy flush draw on the flop?

[mc1023]

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Why did you bet $300 in to a large field with bottom pair and a crappy flush draw on the flop?

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I had Middle pair with a flush draw that I knew was good with only one player behind me to act if anyone else in front of me had the hearts they would've bet into it already since the players sitting at my table generally played their flush draws very strong so I knew my hearts was good and I basically wanted to take it down right there if no one had a decent hand.

and to add the only hand I really would've been worried about is 444 or big blind with 999 anything else I would've seen action already. This is a very loose game preflop at least, most of these guys limping were in preflop with hands like Q6s T5s etc.. oh and I generally bet all my made hands BIG too and I would still get action here if they liked their hands.

[fsuplayer]

flop bet is fine. bet the $500. if he calls whatev. if he raises all in, call. you have some folding equity and as many as 14 outs if he does call.

or of course you can check behind and take a free one.

i think you are getting too wrapped up in the 500 max bet thing. this guy will do nothing different since he only has 800 left.

[Acesover8s]

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Ok I was playing some 3/6 nl at the casino here in vancouver, bc for some fun and had this interesting hand where I thought I should've made a move.

First here are the rules of the casino which affected my decision a lot. Its a 3/6 nl game with a $200 max buy-in but here's the rule that makes it a bit difficult game to play, there is a capp to how much you can bet, $500. So you can only bet $500 max at a time but it can also be raised $500 over and over again. This is a very strange rule indeed for a nl game but thats how it is here anyway to the hand.

I'm in Late position with J8 in a fairly loose game sitting with about $4200 behind me and I've pretty much got everyone covered.

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I can't imagine how one player could run a 200$ max buyin into $4200 in this game, unless you were playing for literally days.

Also if you're worried about not being able to bet enough on the turn to force anyone out, why overbet the pot on the flop?

[mc1023]

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I can't imagine how one player could run a 200$ max buyin into $4200 in this game, unless you were playing for literally days.

Also if you're worried about not being able to bet enough on the turn to force anyone out, why overbet the pot on the flop?

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I was there for about 12 hours, and honestly I wasn't thinking about the $500 max bet until the turn when I realized I can't bet more than $500.

[mc1023]

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flop bet is fine. bet the $500. if he calls whatev. if he raises all in, call. you have some folding equity and as many as 14 outs if he does call.

or of course you can check behind and take a free one.

i think you are getting too wrapped up in the 500 max bet thing. this guy will do nothing different since he only has 800 left.

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so $500 for $1319 as opposed to $800 for $1619 will not really make a difference in your opinion? I guess its true.

[fsuplayer]

so $500 for $1319 as opposed to $800 for $1619 will not really make a difference in your opinion?

nope

[mc1023]

maybe i was a little tired, now that I think about it I did have folding equity there and should've kept the pressure, 12 hours playing live is a stretch for me can't think hah.

[arkose]

i play in this game a lot, and turning $200 into 1500-2000 is definitely possible...i frequently walk out after 6-8 hours with 1k profit....people sitting with $4200 doesn't happen too often though

as for the dilemna regarding the max bet, i don't think its going to matter here....if the guy calls, he knows there is a very good chance he has to put his last $300 in on the river anyways

oh, one interesting thing to note about the max bet....when Affleck was here last week (2nd time he has been there), and they again opened a 10-20NL table for him, they decided to *waive* the max bet that night....so i guess if you are a moviestar, you can get the casino to forego the government-set limits